Philosophical dilema.

[Mateusz_Zboj]

Imagine you are given the opportunity to let people live forever, but as the price of it no new man would be to be born.
Do you accept it?

[Amanda44]

No.

But before i expand on why, i'd like to have some more information, predominantly, how would ageing work?
Would it just stop at what you are now, or be slower. And if the later, at what point would it stop?
Can people still die from disease, war, famine etc?

Tbh, whatever the answer, i would still say no, its only the very young who think living forever might be cool, lol, the world is over populated as it is and i certainly don't want to be around when we've completely run out of natural resources, food and water, not to mention the imminent global financial collapse, loss of law and order and the inevitable chaos that all of that then ensues.

Going even further forward, assuming some of us have survived and managed to reorganise some sort of living structure, there are so many other points to take into consideration, boredom being the most prevalent.

Further still, you do realise our sun won't live forever don't you, it's already in the middle of its lifespan and without that neither will the earth. It is also expected that we will eventualy collide with Andromeda, i don't want to be here for that either, lol.

Ok, going to stop now, lol, though i could discuss this all night. I haven't even started on why no new births would be a total disaster! Good topic Mateusz.

Amanda - the voice of doom and gloom.

[min_the_fair]

Here, have a thought about what eternal life might mean: The Island of the Immortals.

So, no.

[Amanda44]

Here, have a thought about what eternal life might mean: The Island of the Immortals.

So, no.

Perfect!
I had thought about this, hence my questions to do with ageing, i read something similar a few years back but the name of the author escapes me at present.
Also, thanks for inadvertently introducing me to the site min, in return - have you read any Stephen Donaldson? A friend introduced me to The Thomas Covenant series 7/8 years ago, it seriously is a must and if you start now, you should finish just in time for the last installment, lol, its a total of ten books and i've been waiting for the last one for about 2 years! Incredibly frustrating. The Gap series is equally fascinating, but on a different level.

[jordancoles]

I'd rather die than live a life where I have to follow Painhertz around from Perma-death MMO to Perma-death MMO to continue our lifelong battle of the shitposts.

[sabinati]

[overtyped]

No.

But before i expand on why, i'd like to have some more information, predominantly, how would ageing work?
Would it just stop at what you are now, or be slower. And if the later, at what point would it stop?
Can people still die from disease, war, famine etc?

Tbh, whatever the answer, i would still say no, its only the very young who think living forever might be cool, lol, the world is over populated as it is and i certainly don't want to be around when we've completely run out of natural resources, food and water, not to mention the imminent global financial collapse, loss of law and order and the inevitable chaos that all of that then ensues.

Going even further forward, assuming some of us have survived and managed to reorganise some sort of living structure, there are so many other points to take into consideration, boredom being the most prevalent.

Further still, you do realise our sun won't live forever don't you, it's already in the middle of its lifespan and without that neither will the earth. It is also expected that we will eventualy collide with Andromeda, i don't want to be here for that either, lol.

Ok, going to stop now, lol, though i could discuss this all night. I haven't even started on why no new births would be a total disaster! Good topic Mateusz.

Amanda - the voice of doom and gloom.

Your logic is if people are going to die of other things you don't want immortality. You forget that you still die when you die of old age, so saying you don't want to be around for death in the future, is like saying a potato is a potato, and if its a potato you don't want it

BOB DOLE

[Xcom]

Back in the 1800s people lived for less then 40 years and feared the industrialization. Most often people fear it cause there are to many unknowns. But we will adapt as always.

But its scary to think how bad it would be to completely stop evolution in the tracks. We haven't even reached half our potential genetically to stop that with longevity of individuals.

Here, have a thought about what eternal life might mean: The Island of the Immortals.

So, no.

That novel was stupid. That immortal had no arms and no legs. If he could survive berried in the ground for 1000s of years his brain would have to regenerate itself to keep his mind conscious. If this was reality of course and not some magical fly disease that turned people into living coffins. So if his brain would regenerate why won't his arms, legs, eyes and the rest of his body?

[Amanda44]

Your logic is if people are going to die of other things you don't want immortality. You forget that you still die when you die of old age, so saying you don't want to be around for death in the future, is like saying a potato is a potato, and if its a potato you don't want it

BOB DOLE

Thats not what i'm saying at all - i'm saying i wouldn't want to live forever to witness what i believe the future will be like, I'm not actualy talking about people dying, i'm talking about people being immortal with no resources.
I was simply 'asking' in the first paragraph if death would be possible by other means because in my head i was thinking about injury or illness and how that would effect the immortal body - perhaps i should have been clearer.
I then went on to say i wouldn't want to be around at the earths final distruction.
I'm also saying immortal life would eventualy lead to incredible boredom and a deep longing for death.

You forget that you still die when you die of old age

Lol, i don't know how you even came by this conclusion from anything i said. If you are immortal you wouldn't die from old age - perhaps you're not being clear, i don't understand what you are saying here.

Mind you, it is 5am here, i've had no sleep and i'm not even sure if i'm being any clearer - i'm sooo tired but for some reason i just can't sleep - sort of how i imagine immortality must feel like.

[borka]

@OP

personally: no thanks!!!

else: let's discuss this again when all humans have the same rights and oportunities .... the Forbes 150000 might think about your "philosophical dilema" right yet as they're prolly not interested in solving the real dilemas...

Also: who am i to restrict the womens right to choose of giving birth to a child ...