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@Loftar: Java vs Flash

Postby VowOfSilence » Mon May 10, 2010 10:41 pm

Just curious: Why did you pick Java over Flash for HH?

I do some coding myself, but i lack any knowledge of technical details.
The only downsides of Flash that i know of is that it only supports TCP, and that it doesn't really support any graphics acceleration.
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Re: @Loftar: Java vs Flash

Postby loftar » Mon May 10, 2010 10:53 pm

Wow. Where do I start? Flash suxx0rs. There.

  • Flash is proprietary. Java is open (source, even).
  • Flash needs to run in a web browser, Java does not (and Haven doesn't).
  • Flash needs a special (proprietary) development environment. I can write Java in Emacs and compile it in a terminal.
  • Flash is the scourge of the web and deserves to burn in bit hell for it.

I cannot even speak for any technical advantages of Java over Flash, because Flash doesn't deserve me examining it closely enough to know any technical details about it.
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Re: @Loftar: Java vs Flash

Postby VowOfSilence » Mon May 10, 2010 11:04 pm

loftar wrote:
  • Flash needs a special (proprietary) development environment. I can write Java in Emacs and compile it in a terminal.


You don't need Flash to write code, the most popular alternative seems to be Flash Develop:
http://www.flashdevelop.org

The Flash Player itself is closed source, i think... not sure, tho :P
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Re: @Loftar: Java vs Flash

Postby sabinati » Mon May 10, 2010 11:05 pm

yeah man i do some flash development and it blows.
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Re: @Loftar: Java vs Flash

Postby kaka » Mon May 10, 2010 11:22 pm

Let's not forget the amazing Flash support on Linux.
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Re: @Loftar: Java vs Flash

Postby Chakravanti » Mon May 10, 2010 11:33 pm

I never really liked Java that much....but when you cast it against flash well...that's like saying smokeless tobacco is a good thing just because it carries a relatively minuscule set of health risks compared to smoking.
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Re: @Loftar: Java vs Flash

Postby loftar » Mon May 10, 2010 11:38 pm

Chakravanti wrote:I never really liked Java that much....

Oh, certainly. I despise Java with a passion. :) It doesn't come close to what I think of Flash, though. I can hardly even joke about that.
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Re: @Loftar: Java vs Flash

Postby sabinati » Mon May 10, 2010 11:40 pm

are there really any viable alternatives for coding the client?
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Re: @Loftar: Java vs Flash

Postby Chakravanti » Mon May 10, 2010 11:48 pm

sabinati wrote:are there really any viable alternatives for coding the client?

C++ like most game manufacturers?

If I were a programmer I do it in pearl just to spite the windoze gaming community.
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Re: @Loftar: Java vs Flash

Postby loftar » Tue May 11, 2010 12:00 am

Chakravanti wrote:C++ like most game manufacturers?

You speak as if C++ were good for anything. :)

I use Java because of its cross-platform capabilities and ease of running, obviously; which is one of the few really good things that can be said about Java.

If I were to do the client all over again, I'd probably use it as an excuse to play with ABCL. :)
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