Not fun anymore

[ALWAYS]

They were expecting it to be easy, and not have to grind; WRONG.
I love the new world, and when the announcement was made I threw away everything I had on W3, and took a swim. It's a lot harder, but I don't like it any less than I did on the first day. Even after dying three times, and having raiders steal all my villages stuff.

[jgudge]

I don't need to grind, mining lp is good, and i get rewards for it, so win-win-win.

At least now i'm more self-sufficient, and CAN ACTUALLY COMPETE WITH OTHER PLAYERS.

[Grelf]

You CAN explore, you just have to be a little more careful. I've already made supergrid-long trips including large trajectories by foot (rivers seem to be less plentiful now), and had no problems with animals chasing me, since they are quite rare and rather sought by hunters, especially near shores.

And I must agree with sabinati that playing in groups is a huge difference. The world is dangerous indeed, but heck, build up a palisade and try to live peacefully away from trouble if that's the way you prefer the game. The next couple months will be a time of turbulence, but this is something everyone is going through. It's never a bad thing if you keep the company of the right people.

[oreguru]

its definetly more entertaining and has wider range of things available for you.

Dying from animals is just due to carelessness, i mean.. it just added a bit of survival horror genre to early game.

Ok, few things are needed, i mean..do you use standard game client? Get Gilbertus or such, that gives advantage and everyone uses it, that'll boost your survivability, giving you x-ray and night vision.

I dont see any bad sides with changes..except maybe that foxes can murder too (if thats true) :/ player run speed is faster than boar..and you have to be pretty blind to miss a bear, otherwise there's always lots of precautions you can take.

your post regarding "losing interest" kind of makes no sense, it will be very interesting when first superpowers emerge, markets and economies are tried and created, empires build and destroyed..

[cobaltjones]

I was one of the most vocal against the idea of murderous animals at the start of the world, but I've kept playing since then and just accepted it as a new hurdle and have been able to progress fine. Perhaps I've also been lucky, and I'm sure I'll get pissed if and when my character dies from a hidden boar, but it's really not that big of a deal honestly.

Also I play solo and hardly consider myself a hardcore player and am doing just fine, so don't give me crap about it being too hard. Like many have said, W3 was basically "easy mode" for those that knew the tricks. The chance of pace is welcomed so far. (Although it is kind of funny to see the veteran players laugh in the face of people whining about being killed by animals, and then creating topics of their own because they think it's "too hard" to get a certain stat early in the game and want the game to be made easier for them )

[bitza]

the problem with this game isn't the murderous animals. i'm sure it's a major hurdle for a lot of people as i've seen dozens of skeletons scattered throughout the woods. but, the reason this game is "not fun anymore" as halloween puts it, is the same problem that's plagued h&h for over the past year: beginning game feels like nothing but pointless LP grinding and glitched hunting until you can get to the "real game" ahead.

what i mean by pointless grinding is the initial startup of digging and building fires until you have carpentry skill, then chopping trees and making buckets or baskets for hours on end until you can actually goddamn do something useful, such as sit in a boat and shoot boars. can anyone honestly say that this is good gameplay? i would really like to see someone try and defend this setup.

farming used to be a good alternative, with the added bonus of some otherwise hard to get feps and useful products, but due to the recent bugs, farming has no purpose whatsoever other than another pointless system to grind.

having died recently to a bear, i find myself with a 25% reincarnation that can do basically no useful tasks. palis and houses are already built, farming is pointless, and boat hunting won't be an option for a while. which leaves me no real option other than going back to the wicker baskets until i can hunt again. hooray. i suppose i could spec indy but from what i hear, people are mining just for LP now (the way making flour was in w3) and that doesn't seem like particularly good gameplay either.

tl;dr game is not too hard, it's just the initial unproductive grindfest that sucks donkey dick

[mvgulik]

Expectations: Ditch them ... Lowers potential disappointment to ... well ... Zero. Simple logic.

I never seen a depressed rock ... a crushed one for sure. But it did not seem to care.

...

(Damn tree choppers )
There is no need to chop any tree to get you started (getting all basic skills) ... A little tool creation, than some foraging combined with some branch collection can get you a long way pretty fast.

[halloween]

mvqulik...no expectations? why even bother playing any game if you have no expectations for it..that really made alot of sense there..

and for the record I have not chopped any trees just for the meer reason of getting lp for it..

[Oddity]

I agree with bitza. This shit is fucking boring.

[Colten]

I agree with bitza. This shit is fucking boring.