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Re: Something i can't understand about Scents

Postby kaizokuroof » Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:52 am

Flame wrote:Hi to all, mostly do devs. Today i've been summoned killed and i was wondering how could that be, i never raid or leave scents around other claims. Then i see that my double wooden wall has been palibashed in less than 1 h from unknown killers and they used the scents that was inside my plot. The scents was a vandalize scents 'cuz i've made an alt that i can't move his hf, and his hg have spawned in a wrong place, so i've removed it.

Let's not talk about a chara that can bash two line of walls with hands in 30 minuts, but let's talk about the scents.

Is an alt. On my account. If you let us have alts, you leave us have different charas to organize ourself so why should we leave scents of horrible acts on our alts in the same account?

Could you let us move, create, delete the stuff of our alts freely? XD


You could have just moved the alts HF... you can only have one HF at a time right? thus your HF being moved would have removed it from being in the way.

What happened to you sucks and regardless of what the almighty Burgingham has said:

burgingham wrote:This seems like it is entirely your fault.


it is not your fault, show some fucking compassion people. Raid whoever the hell you want, kill whomever you want but breaking down a wall and using the scents inside their own palisade seems pretty crummy to me - If you can bash down walls surely you could have had the dignity to fight him like a man. If people keep raiding all the players without brickwalls, there won't be anyone left to raid.

My condolences to you flame, I wish you all the best! Keep on keepin' on!
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Re: Something i can't understand about Scents

Postby Flame » Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:03 pm

I must admit that i play like a normal man, with a normal life, so max 2 h at day, sometime 2 h in 2 days, and i'm the farmer so i've discovered the wrough iron only yesterday when i decided to brick my wall.

I've lived with a wooden wall because i wasn't able to build a brick one, but also because, with the rams, i knew that if someone wanna destroy your wall need at last several hours of work. I knew about palibasher only few days ago, sorry if is so weird to think that, also with the new update, wall are still so useless.

Honestly i thought that 2 line of wooden wall was at last enough against a raid if i checked the line (and i wasn't able to build nothing better, just grow the line of wooden wall).



Do you think is ok that a random chara can bash a wall? I have still doubt about this.

I've died lots of time before this in this world, by boar, swimming, lag, bugs, and so on, but i don't feel bad when an accident happen, this is an alpha afterall and make a mistake is the fun of the game. The funnier death was against aurochs, 4 death in 2 day (then i decided to leave aurochs where they was....finally XD)

I feel bad when an update, few months later is useless. I play like a normal man, so i don't know everything happen in the game and i didn't read anything aroun about a palibashers advise. The last thing i've read about walls was that only with a ram you can destroy it, or with a chara if you have two days of free time to spend on it. If Brodrich didn't told me that there was chara that smash the walls with simply theyr strenght in few minuts, i didnt go to waste ores with a full farmer chara to discover wrough iron.

About leave scents, i've broke my first rule, never leave scents, so is my fault. About be "only" double walled, should i really feel guilty of something?
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Re: Something i can't understand about Scents

Postby JoeNightmare » Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:15 pm

I agree with flame. Did the devs really have in mind palibashers when the world came to be? As "real" as the game is and how much work it takes just to survive, should palibashers even exist? Shouldn't the devs make it so only a ram can bash a wall? Agreeably, they have better things to do but i believe this should at least be on the to-do list.
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Re: Something i can't understand about Scents

Postby ninja_yodeler » Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:16 pm

I didnt see anyone who wrote it (but i may have missed it :? )

The simplest thing to do was use your alt to move his hearth to where you want it, then only have to destroy the fire, or light it...No scents whatsoever.



Though I do see your point, I do think that in some sense characters of the same account should be linked, like you say it is a real downer to be killed for destroying what is (technically) your own hearth :|
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Re: Something i can't understand about Scents

Postby Flame » Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:23 pm

With the ram theyr tryed to fix it, i suppose. They made wall stronger and created a ram that can destroy the wall and need not so much mighty work on it.

But month passed and chara grow and if the game let player "hit" the wall, one day that wall will collapse.

I understand that a man can be able to kill a bear with bare hands, is a legend but is "possible". Two animal fights!!
A bear can't smash a tree with a fang. A man need an axe and lot of time to cut a tree. A wall is a "reinforced" tree. A double wall are lots of trees reinforced.

The difference between a tree and a wall is that the tree can't defende, it simply stand. The wall is the wall of a claim, of a town, of a house. If someone is cutting down your wall you surely notice it, also if you're sleeping and Shoot arrows or run, or trow oil or...Simply a wall in a living camp is Live and Dangerous for whotry to go inside it, also a farmer in real life can trow you a knife from a wall.

Here is an Online-Offline game, so the best way to simulate the danger on smash a wall is the Time you need to smash it.

Is not so hard tell to the game that to smash a wall you need: 2 day of work or More. NO LESS, no matter your strenght.

So if someone wanna smash an abandoned wall witout waste stuff to make a ram, Can. Is abandoned, you can use a couple of days on it.
If someone wanna smash you wall fastly to raid and escape, CANT. He need to build that ram that devs made for us.

I think that isn't nice that an update become so useless in few time, is time wasted for devs too, but the player grow fastly and you can't make update Hoping they dont grow. :S
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Re: Something i can't understand about Scents

Postby Flame » Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:16 pm

Anyway (double post) there are nice kill scents on my camp for whoever want to make a killing spree XD I'm happy to give you the coords of my camp.
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Re: Something i can't understand about Scents

Postby Morsigil » Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:28 am

JoeNightmare wrote:I agree with flame. Did the devs really have in mind palibashers when the world came to be?


Sledgehammers and a strength requirement for knocking down palis would suggest yes.
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Re: Something i can't understand about Scents

Postby ElGato » Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:00 am

Morsigil wrote:
JoeNightmare wrote:I agree with flame. Did the devs really have in mind palibashers when the world came to be?


Sledgehammers and a strength requirement for knocking down palis would suggest yes.

You can bash palisade with sledgehammer, pickaxe or by hand.
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Re: Something i can't understand about Scents

Postby burgingham » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:55 am

He wanted to point out that palibashers exist by gamedesign. Yes, the devs intended them to be around. Otherwise there'd be no difference in brickwalls and palisades either btw.
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Re: Something i can't understand about Scents

Postby ramones » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:10 pm

And usuall intended palibashers need about 3-5min for 2 layers of palisade, not 30 ;)
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