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Re: Chick-Fil-A: Society Gone Full Retard

Postby dagrimreefah » Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:09 am

burgingham wrote:I recently read a comment from an American citizen who was so proud how America is the first with yet another civil rights movement which is going to make the world a better place.

Guess what guys? Here gay and lesbian marriage is the most normal thing in the world....for years already. How people can be against it is beyond every Europeans mind. Get your shit together man. How are your conservative politicans even meeting with our foreign minister or Berlins mayor? Both are gay and the last time they got into trouble for that was when visiting some backwards arabic 3rd world country. Not the USA, the worlds bestest democracy...lol.

First off America was founded on the principles of a Republic, not a democracy. The very fact that people here in America and across the world clammer for "democracy" is a crying shame that has our founding fathers rolling in their graves. Democracy is not a form of a free society, but a form of a state ruled society. Secondly civil rights movements are just collectivist bullshit perpetuated by ideologically minded, impressionable young people who "want to make a change" but don't understand the first fucking thing about the world, and they imply that INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS aren't enough so we need some bullshit collective rights i.e. "civil rights", arbitrated by the almighty overlord state of course.

As FictionRyu stated, this whole debacle is nothing but mass media hyping you (because they're paid to) into only caring about non-issues like this and what Burg and other Europeans sit around wasting their time bitching and fretting about, instead of focusing on important things like the economy and the wars.

Here in America, we're supposed to have INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS. You know, you are your own government and all that shit. Meaning if fags want to get married, then form a gay church and get married. If someone doesn't like it, they are allowed to not like it and they are also allowed to voice their opinion about it. And you are allowed to voice your opinion about him, or boycott him. Get it? What I'm getting at is you don't need government in every single fucking aspect of your lives.
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Re: Chick-Fil-A: Society Gone Full Retard

Postby painhertz » Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:23 am

"instead of focusing on important things like the economy and the wars."

Implying that people can not focus on multiple topics. Implying that any one particular topic is MORE important than another.
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Re: Chick-Fil-A: Society Gone Full Retard

Postby dagrimreefah » Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:24 am

painhertz wrote:
Implying that people can not focus on multiple topics. Implying that any one particular topic is MORE important than another.

When did I imply that? Show me where.

Isn't it just fucking common sense that there is only enough time in the day? Isn't it obvious to anyone that isn't a half wit like you that one cannot focus on everything at once?

EDIT: Yes, the goddamned economy and these wars that are draining our economy are MUCH more important issues than people crying about not getting special privileges because they happen to practice a particular fetish (being gay)
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Re: Chick-Fil-A: Society Gone Full Retard

Postby popfor » Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:54 am

I'm honestly surprised Catholics weren't brought up in the first three posts, in the end this what it's about anyways, who's better :P Oh and, come eat and chick-fil-a. k.
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Re: Chick-Fil-A: Society Gone Full Retard

Postby borka » Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:59 am

War and "Economic Crisis" both cause social Injustice - the same goes for not allowing ppl that love each other to make a contract ("marriage") equal of their (gender) preference that is binding for society too...(which btw. has nothing to do with Religious stuff (just another Fetish ?!?)

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They don't ask for "special" priviledges but for the same rights that heterosexual ppl have already - like visiting your loved one who's in hospital with cancer and soon dying for example...
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Re: Chick-Fil-A: Society Gone Full Retard

Postby painhertz » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:07 am

"anyone that isn't a half wit like you"

That's where I cease to debate with you. Halfwit indeed. Pot? Meet kettle.
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Re: Chick-Fil-A: Society Gone Full Retard

Postby dagrimreefah » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:31 am

borka wrote:War and "Economic Crisis" both cause social Injustice - the same goes for not allowing ppl that love each other to make a contract ("marriage") equal of their (gender) preference that is binding for society too...(which btw. has nothing to do with Religious stuff (just another Fetish ?!?)

Yes just another fetish. You can try to attach emotionalism to it all you want, but technically it is just a fetish. Economic distress and war is NOT caused by this "social injustice" you talk about. It comes about when a population delegates too much power to a government/central body. It has always happened throughout history because of these reasons. The very very very rare and short lived cases in history where a free society was allowed to exist (19th century America, for example) and people didn't delegate their rights away, wars and economic crisis weren't a problem.

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They don't ask for "special" priviledges but for the same rights that heterosexual ppl have already - like visiting your loved one who's in hospital with cancer and soon dying for example...

Well, when a private hospital can't say who and who can't come in their doors, that is an infringement on the hospital owner's rights and thus a privilege for said person. Keep in mind the word PRIVATE.

I'm not saying I agree with the oh so dramatic example you laid before me and it is wrong to not allow ANYONE into your hospital to see your dying relatives. It is immoral. But what is just as immoral is how you can't even see how the hospital owner should have any rights. You know, that gay person's family has a RIGHT to transfer to another hospital...

Also, being allowed to visit your loved one who's in a particular hospital with cancer is not a right. Property ownership is a right. The absolute control over said property (private property) is a right. Freedom of speech is a right. Forcing the owner of a hospital to let you on his property against his own rights is not a right. It is a privilege.

painhertz wrote:That's where I cease to debate with you. Halfwit indeed. Pot? Meet kettle.

You never had a debate in the first place, Mr. Kettle. :/
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Re: Chick-Fil-A: Society Gone Full Retard

Postby borka » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:02 am

Well Grim i hope you'll always have lots of money to keep your "Individual Rights" so that you never ever have to beg for "Privileges" ;) ...just another kind of fighting a war...money...
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Re: Chick-Fil-A: Society Gone Full Retard

Postby dagrimreefah » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:09 am

borka wrote:Well Grim i hope you'll always have lots of money to keep your "Individual Rights" so that you never ever have to beg for "Privileges" ;) ...just another kind of fighting a war...money...

Well that is a struggle that has been going on since the beginning of life and nature itself: the conflict for resources. That's what this game is inherently about. Having a group of people who hold the monopoly on violence (government) hold our hands and tell us what to do isn't going to help that situation, but make it worse.

At least the fairest and most humane way of people to live their lives in a society is by adhering to "individual rights"....
But alas it is the hardest principle to get across to a population, especially when wealth is squandered on wars and "civil rights movements". Not to mention the huge rats' hole that is government social programs.
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Re: Chick-Fil-A: Society Gone Full Retard

Postby Potjeh » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:50 pm

dagrimreefah wrote:The very very very rare and short lived cases in history where a free society was allowed to exist (19th century America, for example) and people didn't delegate their rights away, wars and economic crisis weren't a problem.

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