BoOty wrote:Cranny wrote:Yes, you are right. What I ask is what happens if we make a statue wall, where statues are close and dont allow players to go walking in between them, and by this line we place a line of boulders unreachable by outsiders except by destroying the statues.
If bears do not try to break the statues because they "see" the boulders, the statue wall would work making the place unrammable again?.
Not really. This troll on the video wasn't scared when he saw boulders, he just knew the way is blocked so he have to make another one.
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In that case bear will just destroy statue and stop by boulders, which can be finished by normal players.
Let me just add to this that if you compactly pack statues that tight so that even a player cant walk between the statues it will be impossible to make a bear destroy the statue. You sorta need to get the bear to path through the statue or object to have him auto attack the object. If the object is destructible he will auto destroy it. This is the bug and why its possible to exploit his destructive behavior.
If the player cant get behind the statue (gap between the statues) the bear wont ever be able to path through the statue because the player wont ever be behind the object.
You always have the edges of walls to protect as well. Of course you could use blocked mine holes at the edges but overall this is incredibly expensive and I haven't tested to see if the bear actually can destroy a wall of statues yet. Maybe there is a way and someone else might find it so building such a expensive indestructible statue wall might not be very wise either way.
I can say this much. Both bears and trolls don't attack a authority object directly. What you need to do is to surfe with the bear / troll / maybe other animals past the object. When they constantly have to repath sometimes they accidentally path through the object and hit the object you want to destroy. If the object is destructible they will start to bash it. The reason its so easy to destroy statues with bears is cause you can tame them and do the surfing trick.
By surfing I mean that the bear is directly behind the player and has to constantly repath. Trolls seem to have a bit more intelligent pathfinder and update there path more often. Bears behave just the same as this troll did in this video, you often have to surfe past the object several times to get them to destroy the object. But I'm 100% sure that if you can surfe with trolls you can easily do the same trick with them as bears. But surfing trolls might be a bit more risky then a tamed bear.
One last thing to note is that all animals instantly stop pathfinding if the player docks up behind a object. The animal instantly stops to repath and obviously dosent go through statues. You cant simply stand behind the object as we did in this vid. You need to be in the open going past the object over and over to make it work.
by Xcom » Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:27 pm 
