Jorb & Loftar, Avoid These Mistakes:

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Re: Jorb & Loftar, Avoid These Mistakes:

Postby Xcom » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:12 am

Vaku wrote:Check this video to see what challenges successful FtP models have overcome: In-Game Economies in Team Fortress 2 and Dota 2


That was a very interesting video, specially those 5 pointers he brought up.

Steamworks Development wrote:Focus on persistant customer value.
Create positive externalities.
Make everything tradable.
Distribute value randomly.
Let users make value for each other.


I think Seatribe fails quite hard on some of those pointers, specially the last one. They ignore the community or in some other instances punish them upright for bringing more positive contributions to there game. I don't know if its to do with this game being abandoned or if they don't have time or other factors. But this game wont become bigger unless they change there mindset, specially if they wish to make a living from Haven.
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Re: Jorb & Loftar, Avoid These Mistakes:

Postby Vaku » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:38 am

I let myself become angry about my being banned situation, at no fault of my own.. I'll post what I wrote here, since it'll probably be deleted or ignored. xD Such is the way of large companies who already have your money, and leave no legal action in recovering it.

For reference, the link is here, accessible to those with access to their Alpha forum.

Vaku wrote:I am becoming absolutely fed up that I am now entering my seventh day with no response from Trion Customer support.

I want you, reader, to look at what players have to deal with.

At no fault of my own, I receive this message from Trion Worlds Customer Support (trionworld1@mailwc.custhelp.com)

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Take a keen note that Trion Worlds identifies my account was compromised, and still, as a paying customer, they strip my account of the ability to use their apparently well-received Live-Chat service. I am forced to submit a ticket into this company's dysfunctional Customer Support System.

Upon completing the required step of 'securing my account' as directed, I am greeted with this page:

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Boxed in red is a complete lie. Players who are victims of hacking are forced to endure a much longer wait period than 72 hours. All across the forum players are acknowledging days or weeks longer than that which is ensured by this statement, "A member of our support team will get back to you within 72 hours."

Instead of acknowledging Trion Worlds, Inc. has a security breach, where player accounts are being hacked and banned, this company does nothing to secure their players' information.

Why is there no one in the ranks of this company who argues to improve efforts of customer security, to lock security breaches, send a mass e-mail to change your password, and disallow bank accounts to remain connected to player accounts?

It's complete nonsense enduring this company's inaction.

Ultimately, paying customers, present and future, must remain as victims, with only e-mails like these to stare at, completely unanswered!

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What gives, Trion? At the very least, Evan "Scapes" Berman, Senior Community Relations Manager could answer some of this nonsense.
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Re: Jorb & Loftar, Avoid These Mistakes:

Postby Spartak3481 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:19 am

The fucking mistake when bears disapear т_т
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Re: Jorb & Loftar, Avoid These Mistakes:

Postby Kaios » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:32 pm

Vaku wrote:I let myself become angry about my being banned situation, at no fault of my own.. I'll post what I wrote here, since it'll probably be deleted or ignored. xD Such is the way of large companies who already have your money, and leave no legal action in recovering it.

For reference, the link is here


I don't think they'll delete your thread/posts as long as you act in a fairly reasonable manner, though I have seen them delete entire threads simply because a few posters in it may be directing it off track or posting garbage which I think is completely retarded. I wish I could check out your link but as I said before I am currently banned from the forum.

If you search my name under the alpha technical subforum you may be able to find the thread I created titled "Did you even read my support ticket?" It had a fair amount of posts going on in it when it was actually relevant.
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Re: Jorb & Loftar, Avoid These Mistakes:

Postby FLO » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:27 pm

I'll keep it short
1. making it mainstream, its style and art is unique to other games i've played
2. making it like salem
3. making it 3D
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Re: Jorb & Loftar, Avoid These Mistakes:

Postby Kaios » Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:34 pm

Vaku, still keeping up with ArcheAge? Any thoughts on how the head start/launch went if so? Personally I think it went terribly but I'll keep it short and end it at that.

Also for anyone else interested the game is now open to those who want to play for free. Expect queues.
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Re: Jorb & Loftar, Avoid These Mistakes:

Postby overtyped » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:57 pm

FLO wrote:3. making it 3D , DON'T EVER FUCKING DO IT
Early world exploit: Put your hearthfire inside a cave, then hold shift to position a claim right in front of a cave. After 8 hours the claim will be unbreakable. Since your hearthfire is inside the cave, you can still get back inside, and leave, but nobody will be able to enter, effectively making you unraidable for the first 3-7 days. Enjoy
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Re: Jorb & Loftar, Avoid These Mistakes:

Postby MagicManICT » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:28 pm

Kaios wrote:Vaku, still keeping up with ArcheAge? Any thoughts on how the head start/launch went if so? Personally I think it went terribly but I'll keep it short and end it at that.

Also for anyone else interested the game is now open to those who want to play for free. Expect queues.


Launch was horrid, too. I was able to get in with "only" a 30 minute queue first day and immidately crashed to desktop when the system load was so much one of the NPC interactions stuck (at the dragonfruit reader at the very beginning). I gave it a few days, was finally able to find a spot to log in with a short queue, but waiting 1+hrs on any server is stupid. It's not encouraging me to invest in the game to get rid of the queue, it's encouraging me to not play at all.

Probably a derail as login queues haven't ever been an issue for HnH, but ungodly lag has, so guess it is related to the discussion, too.

Trion will still get "my" money for RIFT (well, somebody's money, anyway, but it's my play time spent grinding plat for REX), but won't be seeing any from me for AA any time soon.
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Re: Jorb & Loftar, Avoid These Mistakes:

Postby Kaios » Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:11 pm

MagicManICT wrote:Launch was horrid, too. I was able to get in with "only" a 30 minute queue first day and immidately crashed to desktop when the system load was so much one of the NPC interactions stuck (at the dragonfruit reader at the very beginning). I gave it a few days, was finally able to find a spot to log in with a short queue, but waiting 1+hrs on any server is stupid. It's not encouraging me to invest in the game to get rid of the queue, it's encouraging me to not play at all.

Probably a derail as login queues haven't ever been an issue for HnH, but ungodly lag has, so guess it is related to the discussion, too.

Trion will still get "my" money for RIFT (well, somebody's money, anyway, but it's my play time spent grinding plat for REX), but won't be seeing any from me for AA any time soon.


Queues are getting better, at least in NA. I haven't been in a queue over 100 for a long while now though I am a Patron player.
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Re: Jorb & Loftar, Avoid These Mistakes:

Postby MagicManICT » Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:15 am

i noticed they opened a few new servers this week. I'd pay a bit in to get patron status, but I've been dead broke the last few months... had to cancel my EVE account, even.
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