Why Don't You Play Everquest II ???

[Flame]

i pay internet. i pay the game. why i should pay For play?

I'm totally against online game that require money plus. When i kick a ball in my garden, no one ask me more money than that ball, so i'll never pay for have the right of play.


(i'm a little ot, but i've answered afterall..XD nothing against Everquest 2)

[DatOneGuy]

I was perfectly satisfied with the pseudo-mmo feel of Diablo 2. Everquest never appealed to me, as it seemed too off the deep end of nerdy fantasy.

WoW translates in my head into "that thing Blizzard made instead of Starcraft 2 because they love money sooooooo much." Every other game that they made besides those in the Warcraft series might as well have been social experiments to find out what good stuff to take back into the next Warcraft, since they are open about WC being their favorite. It's annoying because it always came off as extremely boring to me. WC3 was an exercise in micromanaging tedium and unholy cost-balancing bullshit (Fuck you, upkeep).

Outside of my specific biases, I'm generally biased toward free MMOs and private pirate servers. There are a lot of good servers for all kinds of things out there, they're just a little harder to sift through.

This, this right here, exactly this.

[keyn_thror]

I have no problems with paying for online games, and I have played most of well-known titles.
I'm an MMO game designer, and it's a part of my job to know the market.

I've been playing online games since 1990 I think, starting with MUDs and Ultima Online later.
I tend to play sandbox-type online games more, because WoW-style MMOs are mostly too boring for me.

The only game I've been playing over 3.5 years by now - is EVE Online.
The best MMO I've seen...

...before I found Haven & Hearth.
Seriously.

This game ROCKS. Period.
I could explain this statement from a personal and profesional points of view for a long time, but I won't.

Haven & Hearth is a breath of fresh air for me, among all those commercial Top-grade MMOs.
And I donate 15$ per month to developers for allowing me to play this masterpiece.
(it's a standard price for a top-class commercial MMORPG)

And it's worth it.

[Zamte]

Thing about pay to play MMOs is... they're worth it. Honestly. I found Nexus TK when I was around 11 years old, way back in 1998. The game had just come out, it was one of the very first real MMOs, and it was $10 a month. I paid for, and played, that game, for the next six years. I had fun with every minute of it. Exploring giant worlds, fighting monsters, roleplaying, and joining subpaths and clans. The ever changing story, events unfolding, new quests, new items. It was incredibly entertaining. Six years of Nexus TK cost me $720. By today's standards, with single player games costing around $60 now, that'd have bought me 12 games. Assuming each even lasted 50 hours, and I played for 4 hours a day, that would only last me 150 days, or about five months. Not even a 12th the time.

Another good example is your TV. If you want visual entertainment, why pay the cable/satelite company for TV? You already paid to buy the TV! That's just not fair. Instead you should go to the movie theater every day. The problem? Even the most expensive cable (at least in the US) is going to run you like $100 for a month. Even seeing a dozen movies would run you more, and last less time. In the same sense as MMOs, the subscription service may require you to pay more to use things you already have, but they give much more entertainment per unit of currency spent.

Now, granted both situations assume the game (or shows available) are good. There are plenty of bad MMOs out there trying to charge fees which I would never pay, but if you find a good game (and WoW is one of them, honestly) it will definitely be worthwhile.

[RPGenie]

I don't play Everquest II because I played Everquest I. On a lighter note, I thoroughly enjoy mixing my WoW and H&H together. It gives me the sort of satisfaction that can only come from enjoying two things at once.... giggidy.

I personally find WoW to be a rewarding experience all its own, but then again, I have found a group of really fun people to play it with and that makes all the difference I'm told. WoW is still a highly entertaining game in its own right, trying to make the base gameplay entertaining as well as throwing a bit of spice into the mix with the quests. It used to follow the basic rule of thumb of "bring me twenty bear asses" but it's obviously trying to push itself away from that sickening mold with every expansion that comes out.

As far as WHY H&H is stealing my time away from WoW? One can only play so much of a game before needing a break! Also, H&H is an uncut gem that's slowly being worked into an exquisite form. I can imagine the twinkle in the dev's eyes as I read the dev notes and I like the direction that they change it with every update.

My original complaint about the game was it was a grind sandwich about as appealing as a er... bread sandwich. With localized and finite resources, construction now consuming the items before giving LP, (i'm looking at you, looms) and the Symbel, the game's taken a u-turn at progressquest and afkgrind junction, heading instead for the fertile lands of engaging gameplay. It puts a smile on my face that has me coming back more often.

[Shoop]

I've played an MMO here and there.
It's mostly a spur of the moment kind of thing among friends. two weeks or so, we'll pay for a month, be really hard grinding dungeons in Dofus, and then slowly drop out of it. Then, we'll drop down in H&H again to see how our piss poor town has been hanging up, we'll fix it right back and make it look like new, only to ditch it again for a couple more weeks. This goes on for many games, not just online. We're currently on the 6th week playing Pokemon Stadium 2, I shit you not. We trained a few teams in our golds/silvers and transferred them in, and it is fun all over again.

A couple of people criticize us for playing games like this, but it's really just how we flow with it.

[theTrav]

I play betas then drop out when they launch.

H&H is the first one to allow players to have any significant impact on the game world I came across (missed the beta for EVE by a long way)

[Chakravanti]

Everquest, WoW, Vanguard, AoC all require money

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and also H&H is better. even I had the money though, I still wouldent play them. Its not that people get addicted and wont leave there computers its the fact that the game is even played by people like that that bothers me, who would want to be associated with that? not me, thanks anyway.

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[Tonopah]

Why is it when people chat up old EQ they call down the oft repeated trope that Verant was some sort of superdeveloper - they weren't. The Vision© was, in reality, a nightmare reverie.

For Verant! lmao

[Potjeh]

I don't play MMORPGSs. H&H is a freak case.