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Re: How much learning points do you make in a day?

Postby DatOneGuy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:31 pm

martinuzz wrote:Hunting LP is nice.
However, the LP from farming wheat and crafting the associated products (don't forget the farming hats) is a more reliable source of LP, and it nets more as well. I mainly craft Pirozhikis, sacreblue, carrot cakes and raisin cakes. Pirozhikis give most LP per unit of wheat I think, if you have the chants and onions to spare. (I buy my chants at the market, so getting those barely costs time)
Farming my wheat and cooking stuff nets me about 150k LP in 2-3 hours, drinking q101+ tea(+40% learning).
I got about 300 plots of wheat planted.

As long as hunting LP relies on the availabilty of wildlife, farming wheat > hunting.
I wish I could grow bears.

Having 2~3 moorland/grasslands/heath you can warp to (crossroads) of a decent size can work out nicely, especially once you can tank auroch/mouflon (will probably take you quite a while to be able to do ; Not sure how much melee each requires).

Mouflon herds I find tend to be 10~22, I usually find them in groups of 18 ; One group of mouflon (from what I can tell just requires one 'spawn tick' ; So as opposed to one bear, you would receive 18 mouflon).
18x720 = 12,960 LP

Just slightly above 1 bear, almost 2 bears. If you can 1hko a bear they're better. If you can't and you're used to setting up traps quickly (around yourself) you don't have to worry about running B.S. and can take your time.

It's especially great on newbie characters who aren't that strong. Switching between each after a sweep and you'll usually find a few spawns every now and then, if you check all and don't see anything, just scour some nearby forests for bears.

Bears are really a pain unless you can tank them or 1hko them because they run like babies all the time, the exception being at over 100 Marksmanship when you can quickly charge on them once they get out of your range (because you're charging when they run) to get that last hit or so in once they're out of range.

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Hunting is great LP but it's a gamble compared to Farming Wheat.
As an example: Hunting you 'could' end up with let's say bear after bear after bear and get 300k LP/hr, but you 'could' end up with no bears and just killing boars/aurochs/mouflon (if you even find those) and end up wasting your time traveling and only get 50k LP/hr.

Whereas a 100x100 Wheat Flour field will leave you with:
36 - Harvesting
36 - Planting
136 - Wheat Flour (q100 ; Full change)
126 - (q10 Water ; q55 Dough ; Full change) - Wiki must be wrong on Bread Dough, no way it gives 50 so I'll be gracious and say it's only 15 at base

This is PER square of Wheat. 334 LP per square ; That's 3.3mil LP each time you do your wheat. It'll take hours, most likely over 12. You'd also require tea or massive amounts of water for the Stamina alone, the tea would give you LP and the time spent on it isn't a big deal as well.


Oh, I almost forgot to mention, you'd get less doing the wheat flour and dough with a character who has low farming/cooking, but not enough to mean it really sucks as they might halve the quality but it's still great LP :)

Turning them into pirozkhi (who the hell would have enough chants...) or something else would also work.

If you don't want to use water (do this near the shore, seriously if you don't, you're gonna kill something out of rage) then just make wheat flour, you lose 126 LP per square (1.2mil LP) but the water can be a pain.

It's also worth mentioning that with a mansion to hold cupboards right next to the field and the shore you can use this to train an alt doing the bread dough/Planting while your main does the Harvesting/Wheat Flour (Harvesting to preserve quality to some degree ; Wheat Flour for massive amounts of LP)

Since both things are for the most part AFK-work, you can Harvest while the other is making Bread Dough and Plant while the other is making Wheat Flour. It's a very lucrative way to make LP if you have no problems juggling,or have a friend to split the work with. (It can also be noted that simply plowing the field with a metal plow would give the new character a fresh 35k LP (100*100*3.5) to get all the skills he needs (Literally just Baking lol) so he can start the Bread Dough with 25 Cooking!

This is a great way to start an alt army actually, do this to get them the 100 LP to get the most out of the Bread Dough(2~3 Harvests lol) [1.62mil LP per harvest if it's Planting(36)+Dough(126)]


In any case, take that as you will, it's a very nice way to do it, it'll just take some building up to that wheat field. It's also better to have longer wheat fields as you can place beehives down with the straw to make them grow faster and do it every 2 days instead of every 3~4 or whatever it is without one. That straw is enough for a few mansions each time as well.

tl;dr Wheat bro, wheat.
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Re: How much learning points do you make in a day?

Postby martinuzz » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:47 pm

lol. 100x100.
I feel humbled, with my 300 plots.
Instead of building mansions, I craft the straw into straw hats, yielding another 300+ LP per 4 plots of wheat.
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Re: How much learning points do you make in a day?

Postby DatOneGuy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:17 pm

martinuzz wrote:lol. 100x100.
I feel humbled, with my 300 plots.
Instead of building mansions, I craft the straw into straw hats, yielding another 300+ LP per 4 plots of wheat.

I don't actually have a 100x100 plot of wheat, I've just done the math for it.

I'd actually prefer 3 plots of 100x10 to create a total of 100x30 if I bothered. It should be doable within 12 hours and provide a very nice amount of LP.

100x30 Wheat Field
361,080 LP - Harvesting
361,080 LP - Planting
10,500 LP - Plowing
408,000 LP - Wheat Flour
378,000 LP - Bread Dough
225,000 LP - Straw Hats

Calculating how long exactly it takes for Wheat Flour/Bread Dough would also be smart. Harvesting is fast enough where the whole thing should be doable within a few hours, but the Flour/Dough is straight up waiting.
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