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Re: Which is better

Postby saltmummy626 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:48 am

hollowblock88 wrote:So wait UA is more dmg than melee? and also how much does high q sling go for =P I'm getting kinda tired of missing hits or getting 9 and 10 dmg



well no, see melee attacks take time to prepare cuz you need to save initiative for each melee attack but each attack deals a significant amount of damage. where as with unarmed, you dont need to save initiative for you attacks and can simply rain blow after blow on your enemy, saving your initiative for "push the advantage" and "throw sand" and other very tricky moves to piss off the guy or gal your fighting. melee is good in an all out battle like when you get raided or are raiding another village, unarmed is good for defending yourself and ambushing people. no one expects to get punched in the jack handle when they are busy watching out for guys with swords, bay12s, and ranger bows. marksman is only good against players who stand still for awhile, unless you have it VERY VERY high, then you can hit guys on the run while sailing a boat. I went for unarmed. the plus side for melee in hunting is that you dont need as much skill in it to kill animals as you would with unarmed. So I ask your preference; power attacks, or a hail of fists? heavy or scout? zerg or protoss? blah blah blah I could throw around combat imagery all day, but just think about it. oh yeah and for hunting, marksman is best in my opinion. always raise your marksman for hunting, and for PvP pick one of the close combat picks.
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Re: Which is better

Postby Dataslycer » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:27 am

saltmummy626 wrote:
hollowblock88 wrote:So wait UA is more dmg than melee? and also how much does high q sling go for =P I'm getting kinda tired of missing hits or getting 9 and 10 dmg



oh yeah and for hunting, marksman is best in my opinion


I beg to differ. If you can build yourself up well in melee, you can easily surpass the damage marksman has to offer.
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Re: Which is better

Postby Darkren » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:41 am

Unarmed is good for learning how melee works, and later for non-Shield maneuvers. Gaining the two IP needed to sting a boar just from turning on Death or Glory for a few seconds is quite convenient.

Marksmanship is seriously overpowered. Anyone with good armor can very well survive if not completely absorb a projectile.
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Re: Which is better

Postby Granger » Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:21 am

Darkren wrote:Marksmanship is seriously overpowered. Anyone with good armor can very well survive if not completely absorb a projectile.


Sounds more like it is underpowered then.
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Re: Which is better

Postby burgingham » Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:26 am

I guess that is what he meant to say. And yes it is underpowered for PvP, even completely useless. I am not sure if they plan to remake MM completely when they do so with melee/ua, so maybe we just got to wait and see what happens.
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Re: Which is better

Postby Sarge » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:33 pm

Markmanship + nothing = meh
Unarmed + nothing = meh
Melee + thanes + dragon helm = whooooooo

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Re: Which is better

Postby Grog » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:07 pm

sarge is right, that the main problem
big lack of equipment that adds mm or unarmed, especially rings
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Re: Which is better

Postby burgingham » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:11 pm

I don't think this is true, since the equipement you are talking about is only avaiable to a very small percentage of the playerbase anyway. MM sucks so much because you need hundreds of shots to get through decent armor, even with a rangers bow.
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Re: Which is better

Postby hollowblock88 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:22 pm

Are they gonna fix this marksmanship suckishness anytime soon?
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Re: Which is better

Postby burgingham » Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:27 pm

I am not sure if it wasn't intended to make MM only useful for PvE, but it sure would be nice to have some more viable tactics for PvP.
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