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Re: For or against feminism(Plus exclusive Flame comic)

Postby Flame » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:08 pm

they were already stupid and ignorant to begin with.


Stupid people are harmless until some dude don't gives them the "big idea!!"
Then they are so stupid to think that it's really a big idea.

I dunno if i whould delete the stupid ones or the dude. I think that with the dude, is faster.
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Re: For or against feminism(Plus exclusive Flame comic)

Postby Tonkyhonk » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:25 pm

overtyped wrote:freedom of speech even applies to stupid or irrational ideas.

1. this isnt about freedom of speech as repeated, but if you must insist, check exclusions.
incitement and obscenity, possibly true threats (supported by his speech), and false statement of facts in the case of fraud.
2. care to explain how they have managed to earn enough customers to run their business enough to have world tours if its too stupid or irrational for everyone? hate to admit, but seems like quite a numbers of retarded males got already infected.
3. they silenced themselves in public by shutting down their forums and twitter accounts, removing their vids after the movement started. no comments from their side seem to be appearing so far, except for those by the supporters of PUA community. in fact, there is also a petition going to ask for this guys freedom of speech in change.org if you care to support that instead.

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Re: For or against feminism(Plus exclusive Flame comic)

Postby Potjeh » Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:55 pm

If the guy is committing actual assaults, how come he isn't in prison?
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Re: For or against feminism(Plus exclusive Flame comic)

Postby Argus » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:08 pm

You know, there's a saying I'm fond of...

"God made man and woman, but Samuel Colt made them equal."

Just sayin'.
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Re: For or against feminism(Plus exclusive Flame comic)

Postby borka » Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:42 pm

Potjeh wrote:If the guy is committing actual assaults, how come he isn't in prison?


Where no plaintiff, no judge - i guess we all know some women are hesitating to disclose themselves in such cases

Has that guy ever been to Sweden?!? ...
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Re: For or against feminism(Plus exclusive Flame comic)

Postby GrapefruitV » Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:03 pm

I'm checking out russian pickupers forums once in a while to get some laugh, and that story made me search for some opinions on that matter. Most people there think that this guy was misunderstood, because he and his methods are way ahead of our time and every girl would fall for that, the pissed ones just jelly, because they are ugly and can't get a piece of this macho. I'm not even exaggerating, on the contrary making it sound softer and less radical.
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Re: For or against feminism(Plus exclusive Flame comic)

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:04 am

Potjeh wrote:If the guy is committing actual assaults, how come he isn't in prison?


If anyone, in defense, claims that he was instructed by this person to commit a felony, then charges could possibly be brought for accessory and conspiracy netting the same time, at least in the US. I won't speak for international law (and legal needs for charges of this nature can vary from jurisdiction to the next in the US). It's what brought down Charles Manson.
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Re: For or against feminism(Plus exclusive Flame comic)

Postby Potjeh » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:02 pm

I still think that reports of his misdeeds have been overblown a bit. I read some PUA materials waaay back, and it was basically just telling guys to act like Johnny Bravo. And we all know how well that works.
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Re: For or against feminism(Plus exclusive Flame comic)

Postby MagicManICT » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:44 am

Potjeh wrote:I still think that reports of his misdeeds have been overblown a bit. I read some PUA materials waaay back, and it was basically just telling guys to act like Johnny Bravo. And we all know how well that works.


Isn't that the guy that sounds like Elvis, acted like an ass, had every woman his age turn him down, and had the neighbor girl (as in child) chasing after him?
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Re: For or against feminism(Plus exclusive Flame comic)

Postby Tonkyhonk » Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:35 am

Potjeh wrote:And we all know how well that works.

apparently not "all" as some actually do pay for his seminars to help him make living.
i read a blog article written by a self-claiming PUA called Jason who is trying to convince his readers (followers of his own *art*) this being a conspiracy for a movie "tokyo vice" and claims that one of his well-known PUA friends in japan is now being threatened and chased by both police and yakuza. (i guess the cases are indeed under certain investigations, though i hear no final reports here, except for those in uk, brazil, and south korea.)

i dont know if any of you remember, but there once was this rape incident a while ago in italy, an italian guy raped a group of tourists, 6 japanese girl students, all together at his own house. he spoke to them in japanese, invited them all to his house, threatened them with a katana sword and and his karate skill or something and went ahead to rape all of them, one by one - none of them were brave nor smart enough to do something about it, i know how "unbelievaburu" it sounds, but they were all too scared and just obeyed his orders and "waited for their turns" or so they said according to the report. they went back to the hotel together crying and the teachers found out what happened later. of course this italian guy insisted that it was never rapes as none of them *refused*, technically speaking. its not new some girls here being incredibly retarded peacefools, unfortunately, but it was a kind of "awe" nobody (even in this extreme peacefool country) expected.

on the other hand, a man convicted for a rape and forcible indecency case in 2011, sentenced to 12 yrs in prison, was released "not guilty" the day before yesterday, after 3 yrs. it is said that the victim and witness made it all up and was a total lie, and no harm was done except for this guys career, reputation and the time he had spent in prison. the detail is not revealed for their privacy or whatever, but these fake victim and witnesses need to be punished very harshly as this would make it even harder for real victims in future to speak up.

either way, whats so ironic about this julien case and feminism in japan is that some ppl (not all) here tend to prefer blaming "shameful" girls in general for being retarded instead. the targets of his seminars are all english speakers - he cant even pronounce taxi right and its very unlikely that he preaches in japanese to japanese men here - and there is some truth that there are quite a few "yellow cabs" (a term used to refer to asian girls that willingly get picked up by foreigners) gather around the places where those foreign males hang around. some even go as far to say "please take those sluts away from us so we get to keep decent ones only to ourselves without wasting time." a reddit discussion on this was funnier, some white males in tokyo area seem to have avoided going to clubs lately in the fear of being mistaken as him or the related; white men look all the same to asians, as asians look all the same to non-asians.
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