Stance on gay rights?

[dagrimreefah]

I'm not surprised someone such as yourself has a lack of empathy and compassion for other living entities, even more so since of their similarities to you.

What do you mean "similarities"? I'm not homo if that's what you mean.
As for the first part, that's not true. I just view homosexuality as a personal sexual preference, or a perversion if you will. As repulsive as I may find it, it in no way means I have a lack of empathy for the person. But rights are rights; to go and try to advocate some arbitrary new set of "rights" under the label of "gay rights" just because it makes you feel like a good person and makes you feel hip just undermines every ones' (including gays) fundamental rights and it creates yet another state protected class. It also undermines what every free person wants: to be left the fuck alone. Isn't that what queers want? To be left alone?

TL;DR:

I support equal rights of all individuals to the extent where their rights don't impose the rights of others.

[MagicManICT]

As for the first part, that's not true. I just view homosexuality as a personal sexual preference, or a perversion if you will.

I'm not really sure you can call it a perversion if you can find it in nature, even if not "common". Does that mean I find it tasteful and desirable? No. I find boiled greens to be neither tasteful nor desirable, but there are those that still enjoy them. Maybe if I were the one that had written the book of Leviticus, there'd be a phrase in there "eat not of the bitter part of the plants, for they are unclean."

[brohammed]

But rights are rights; to go and try to advocate some arbitrary new set of "rights" under the label of "gay rights" just because it makes you feel like a good person and makes you feel hip just undermines every ones' (including gays) fundamental rights and it creates yet another state protected class.

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All it is is adding another phrase to the existing non-discrimination laws (that already apply to both genders, all races, etc) so that the act explicitly covers discrimination based on sexual preference like any other discrimination. No new rights are involved.

[dagrimreefah]

You missed my point completely. I disagree with discrimination laws (aka "insert social class here"-rights). I think it is a state sponsored infringement on individual rights. I advocate individual rights.

[brohammed]

That's nice but it will never solve the problems of inequality. It's just turning a blind eye to the problem in the name of "freedom".

[dagrimreefah]

That's nice but it will never solve the problems of inequality. It's just turning a blind eye to the problem in the name of "freedom".

So what do you purpose then? The iron fist of government, simply because life isn't fair?

EDIT: Individual rights and "freedom" as you so condescendingly put it (I guess you dislike the idea of being your own person) means everyone gets their own space and their own voice, and can acquire their own stuff, and once you violate someone's stuff, or space, or right to speak, with violence and coercive force then it is considered a violation of those rights, and thus a crime. That is if you live in a truly free and FAIR (there's that key word) society who's law is based off of documents like the Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights. Gays are included in all of that.

What you seem to advocate is a big group of goons called "the government" being delegated the right to use violence and coercive force on you and all they have to do is claim you violated some arbitrary "discrimination law".

Unless you have mistaken the word "discrimination" to mean violence and coercive actions against a person. If that is the unfortunate case, please refer to the beginning of my post. I may also suggest http://www.dictionary.com.

[brohammed]

"Life isn't fair" is a complete copout. It's just an acceptance of the status quo. Inequalities and injustice exist and they must be eliminated.

Presumably you are a libertarian, and I am a socialist, so we can continue to argue if you'd like, but at the end of the day being homophobic will become less and less acceptable, they'll gain equal standing in law, and everyone will be happier.

Human happiness is the end goal, right?

[dagrimreefah]

"Life isn't fair" is a complete copout. It's just an acceptance of the status quo. Inequalities and injustice exist and they must be eliminated.

Presumably you are a libertarian, and I am a socialist, so we can continue to argue if you'd like, but at the end of the day being homophobic will become less and less acceptable, they'll gain equal standing in law, and everyone will be happier.

Human happiness is the end goal, right?

Calling someone homophobic because they stand for every ones' rights (gays included) instead of ONLY gays' rights is a copout.

You are too dull to argue with. Continue believing in your big-government pipe dreams. Someday hopefully you'll grow up though.

[brohammed]

"Life isn't fair" is a complete copout. It's just an acceptance of the status quo. Inequalities and injustice exist and they must be eliminated.

Presumably you are a libertarian, and I am a socialist, so we can continue to argue if you'd like, but at the end of the day being homophobic will become less and less acceptable, they'll gain equal standing in law, and everyone will be happier.

Human happiness is the end goal, right?

Calling someone homophobic because they stand for every ones' rights (gays included) instead of ONLY gays' rights is a copout.

You are too dull to argue with. Continue believing in your big-government pipe dreams. Someday hopefully you'll grow up though.

I am not calling you homophobic.

Continue believing that the "freedom" to discriminate on meritless values will build a pleasant society. Have a nice day.

[dagrimreefah]

Continue believing that the "freedom" to discriminate on meritless values will build a pleasant society. Have a nice day.

Never said I believed that. Nice job putting words in my mouth.
I do however believe freedom will build a pleasant society. (again you use the quotations around the word freedom because I guess you prefer to be servile?)