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Re: Feminism

Postby GrapefruitV » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:28 pm

Equal=/=Same.

Yeah, sorry, I forgot to explain what do I mean by "equal". People can never be same and always will be (and should be) treaten differently. But they should not be prejudged. Extremely simplified: I can say "this woman is stupid" and treat her accordingly after we had a conversation, but I can't say "she is probably stupid, because she is a woman", before I even talk to her.
"Created equal" means BORN equal. Equal opportunity to prove yourself. When you prove yourself worthless, it's not equality to treat you like the princess you aren't.

Just this.

I believe all the "you" in your post were for some abstract woman/feminist. Because it really has nothing to do with me personally, my views or my post (now for sure with "equality" explaned).
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Re: Feminism

Postby Vespasian » Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:59 pm

Chakravanti wrote:
Vespasian wrote:No one gender is inherently better than another. That's a fact.

Women are inherently better at being pregnant. That's a fact. Men are inherently better at testosterone production related thing such as muscle building and situational emotional cycles (as opposed to internal time based gestational).

Sexual dimorphism does not make either gender in general better. I was referring to things not related to reproduction. Neither is inherently smarter, stronger or any other characteristic. Please refer to what Yodeler said.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Potjeh » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:11 pm

Seriously? You're going to deny that difference in raw physical strength is a thing?
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Re: Feminism

Postby Vespasian » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:12 pm

No, im referring to things than can not be put down to sexual dimorphism. Physical differences exist. But its not as extreme as some people would have you think. And I see it more as correlation with some causation but not the end all be all. But that argument has to do with nature vs nurture. I personally put more stock in nurture than nature. Things are subject to change with time. And again culturally we reinforce the effects of nature.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Chakravanti » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:31 pm

I believe all the "you" in your post were for some abstract woman/feminist.


It only applies to you if you think it doesn't apply to you and you disagree with me. Like this anon bitch:

Vespasian wrote:Sexual dimorphism does not make either gender in general better.


Well, generally speaking: nothing.

I was referring to things not related to reproduction.


You don't seem to live in the same reality we do. Everything on this planet is either:

1. A penis
2. Shaped like a penis.
3. Functions like a penis.
4. Is designed for a penis, a penis shaped thing or something that is a functional metaphor for a penis.


I personally put more stock in nurture than nature

Which one of these are hormones a function of? That's where the stock is, not your 'philosophy' drivel.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Vespasian » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:32 pm

Is humanity so simple? I prefer to think not. I'm not as cynical as you. :)
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Re: Feminism

Postby Chakravanti » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:40 pm

Vespasian wrote:Is humanity so simple? I prefer to think not. I'm not as cynical as you. :)

Why is it cynical to see penis?
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Re: Feminism

Postby Vespasian » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:42 pm

Cynical to assume that humanity can only serve one purpose, and is not capable of more.
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Re: Feminism

Postby Chakravanti » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:45 pm

And how the fuck, pun intended, does describing humanity by the way revolves largely (and entirely if indirectly) around *the only fucking way it stays alive for more than forty years*'s "Simple". It's anything but "Simple".

and then,
Vespasian wrote:Cynical to assume that humanity can only serve one purpose, and is not capable of more.


In no way does what I have said limit humanity. It's a little harder to catch and see when you go intergalatic but I promise you, the prevelance of penile shapes and operations do not disapear once you get on a penis shaped vehicle and leave this planet.
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Re: Feminism

Postby GrapefruitV » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:53 pm

Frustra fit per plura quod potest fieri per pauciora. Penis shape and functioning are just obvious basics, there is no reason to assume everything penis-like was inspired by penis.
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