Moammar al-Qadhafi = dead!

[Voxpopulos]

why and what kind of advice could i give to them, or even to you here?
you seem to have this inferior complex that all people except you are trying to push you with some advice?
im only sharing my point of view, cause you seem to have thought none of us have been there in those days, and talked as if you were a representative of the whole ex-USSR.
i had learned a lot from them, including their language and culture. and i wanted to say that there were many of those like you, and there were many of those UNLIKE you as well.
at that time, all i could do was to share my knowledge of my own tongue and culture and be friends, and im pretty sure that is all they wanted from me, though there were some retards expecting me to pull money from my country for bribes. (and we have all the corrupt retards too.)
they all had their prides of who they had been. why would i bother trying to tell them something when i cant even explain what i had in mind in their language, especially to the older guys? even if i could, would it have changed anything? lol
i only heard, listened, saw, witnessed, watched and pondered. (i did have some good discussions with a few young ones who understood english though.)

and i quite dont understand what you are trying to say with this crowbar thing and these two lines, probably my side.

But are the guys, who have monopoly on spreading it.

And some of them even fighting for their rights with usa and west world, could you imagine?

for the last line, that is exactly my point. you want dictators, right? but there are some of you who dont, as well.

When you come to the country, don't try to force your point of view on it's inhabitants. i would beat the shit out of you if i wa the one whom you spoke to. We don't need yor democracy or anything like that, so keep it to yourself.

to Burg: alas, Hitler was great for your country btw. He put your country up after WW1, and you deny it? No way you're german, m'lord.

[Tonkyhonk]

those guys have the possibility to live, say, in Lybia, on the 50$ in a day, with free halthcare, but said: "no, we dont love that totalitarian Lybia, so we better stay here, in the free country, and will live on a 1$ in a day, with crimes and corruption"?

So how many such guys did you know?

like i said previously, i am not familiar enough with the events to talk about Lybia.

I mean, that perhaps "ideal spherical democracy in vacuum" does not abuse the minorities, but in our imperfect world, created by evil demiurg, west world uses "violation rights of minorities" only to start war, and when the friends of west world are, in their turn, violates the rights of their oun minorities - west world pretends that nothing happening at all.

ideals of each ideology sounds healthy. we all know that it doesnt always work like that in our imperfect world too.
but just because it doesnt work, you should realize picking on the only bad parts of one and compare them with only the good parts of another ideology isnt right.

[Tonkyhonk]

When you come to the country, don't try to force your point of view on it's inhabitants.

did you even read what you quoted? i said, i only heard, listened, saw, witnessed, watched and pondered.
im no missionary, but you seem to be one to spread and force yours to others who havent been there.


*edit*
to Voxpopulos below, i didnt wanna bump this thread so editing in here.
it may be a very shocking news for you, but
some of you people do understand the difference between "discussions" and "forcing opinions", unlike you.

[cauda_draconis]

Btw, Tonky, i dont even know - where are you from? Japan or US?
Just intersting.

[borka]

When you come to the country, don't try to force your point of view on it's inhabitants. i would beat the shit out of you if i wa the one whom you spoke to. We don't need yor democracy or anything like that, so keep it to yourself.

to Burg: alas, Hitler was great for your country btw. He put your country up after WW1, and you deny it? No way you're german, m'lord.

I would beat... - We don't need...

There's a difference between I and We...

Also you know shit about Hitler and german history...

[burgingham]

to Burg: alas, Hitler was great for your country btw. He put your country up after WW1, and you deny it? No way you're german, m'lord.

If I find you posting fascist propaganda again I will go ahead and remove your sorry ass from the forums. A good German is a european democrat who is aware of our horrbile past and has learnt from it. Lucky for us that is most Germans and the right-wing parties are stuck at 1% or 2% of the votes usually.

[kLauE]

to Burg: alas, Hitler was great for your country btw. He put your country up after WW1, and you deny it? No way you're german, m'lord.

If I find you posting fascist propaganda again I will go ahead and remove your sorry ass from the forums. A good German is a european democrat who is aware of our horrbile past and has learnt from it. Lucky for us that is most Germans and the right-wing parties are stuck at 1% or 2% of the votes usually.

and push all money we earn into fuckin countries in europe which are fucked since years, like france, which are semi-covered through greek (and is a A+ country in europe). borrow money from allmost broken countries, easy going. no need to pay high charges, fuck this. euro is broke since it went up, and everyone who works is paying for it. rich>poor - distribution will fuck i hard in future... hf

partytime for me

/btw all germans are nazis and we fuck the sytem. heil hitler burg.

[cauda_draconis]

/btw all germans are nazis and we fuck the sytem. heil hitler burg.

Holy God. So, all those guys, who posts shopped image with Hitler on Krautchan, are actually nazis???

... european democrat ...
... remove your sorry ass from the forums ...

The same shit russian liberals usually tell me on russian forums.
That's some sort of liberal HIVEMIND!

[Voxpopulos]

to Burg: alas, Hitler was great for your country btw. He put your country up after WW1, and you deny it? No way you're german, m'lord.

If I find you posting fascist propaganda again I will go ahead and remove your sorry ass from the forums. A good German is a european democrat who is aware of our horrbile past and has learnt from it. Lucky for us that is most Germans and the right-wing parties are stuck at 1% or 2% of the votes usually.

Dat's no propaganda, seriously, dats just point of view on history. Germany went into blooming state during nazis. Thats what i think, and not only me. And if Molotoff-Ribentropp pact was followed till the end, world would be something else today. Maybe even better, who knows?

to Tonky: yah,"i talked to some". You observed or talked, i don't get it.

[burgingham]

... european democrat ...
... remove your sorry ass from the forums ...

The same shit russian liberals usually tell me on russian forums.
That's some sort of liberal HIVEMIND!

Fascist propaganda is banned by law in Germany and that for a good reason.

Voxpopulos obviously is simply a bad troll though so as long as he stops littering this thread now I will leave him be.

@Klaue have fun But consider that Germany and all other European countries already would have vanished to insignificance without the EU. Germany is the biggest profeteer of the EU btw.