Curious about Crashes?

[Valten21]

Well said Korush.

[plaguespark]

As I have pointed out before am I in the much better position to do proper critiqueing than you for the above mentioned reasons of you being so caught up in it.

Your butthurt experience matters not

[iceheart]

To be fair, a lot of us are going on double standard here. Given an example is Pandemonium back in world 5 tried to assault LadyGoo's village with a ton of cornerpost which goes around the mechanics of the 12 hour necessity of wait to seal a cornerpost as well as summoning people into that bubble fort. This was thwarted by what they accused to be a summon bot. While I do not condone what he did there, I am not particularly keen on him speaking against Ainran for a similar action (albeit some differences).

That being said , both side are exploiting in a sense. This does make one more or less wrong than the others and consider the game policy and metagame, it is just another day in Haven. One thing I want to touch on is that this was set up by an unsealed cornerpost which most of us forumers often rant on how important it is. Finally this bed exploit is ironically what could have made Burgingham's attack a success though arguable gates would have made Pandemonium or Ainran's assault have a bit more option (though it would get cockc blocked by statues anyhow.

Speaking of which, being able to log onto your own assault fort should be a feature in the new siege enginne with limitation. At the same measure, summoning people into another's claim that you do not have permission to should be blocked. This won't disrupt courier alts but at the same measure you can't summon an army into an enemy village just because ONE FREAKING VILLAGER is a spy or, god forbids, got hacked.

I am not on anyone's side but my own but just wanted to point things out that somewhat bothers me.

[Potjeh]

The new system should abolish all forms of teleportation, summoning included. If you wanna summon someone, go to his log-out location instead.

Also, fuck area transitions.

[burgingham]

As I have pointed out before am I in the much better position to do proper critiqueing than you for the above mentioned reasons of you being so caught up in it.

Your butthurt experience matters not

Allrighty then I told you not to troll around with your alt. You ignored it. You and your alt both get avacation.

[WarpedWiseMan]

I believe Burg's entire point is that several of us have been saying "the game is broken because you must exploit to be successful" while Ainran (specifically bmjclark) has been saying "the game is not broken and if you don't play this version you should shut up".

Ainran is full of liars and cheaters and dickheads. NOONE DENIES THIS. And while I too, respect Valten's positions and aura of honesty, the fact remains that they are as much a part of the cancer that is killing Haven & Hearth as the vault using Russians, the developers apathy and the non new player friendly world.

And saying there is a formal agreement of accepted exploits, bug uses etc. is fucking moronic. Like a retard's version of the 1980's MAD policy. And who decides these rules? That's right the bug using dicks themselves...hahahahaha. Just like the United Nations.

Plus, Burg never blamed anyone for using them, he simply stated the facts in a less coherent way. Allow me to clarify what I think he meant: CONGRATULATIONS ON WINNING A BROKEN, LOPSIDEDLY UNFAIR GAME AGAINST NOBODY OF CONSEQUENCE YOU ARE THE CHAMPIONS OF ZILCH. *twiddles finger in the air*

[burgingham]

Thank you. If I ever go into politics I will have you write my speeches. So you better start learning German now.

[DDDsDD999]

I don't know why you are fooling yourself into thinking that people who no longer play should be disregarded in their thoughts and observations. I have every right to give my opinion. This strange idea that you have planted in your heads that people who no longer play are worth nothing is completely wrong. Should sports observers who have retired be fired from ESPN? Should Bill Clinton be unable to comment on any matters regarding the presidency? Am I unable to give my opinion, or even observe for that matter, on matters of the game currently?

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[bmjclark]

"the game is not broken and if you don't play this version you should shut up".

..... anyone who still enjoys playing it,even in its broken state.......

.......it is pretty much the only possible way to siege a town right now because there really is no siege mechanic in place as you well know.....

[WarpedWiseMan]

I'm not saying you are wrong Mr. Canada, just that you have said, in essence, "You aren't playing, why do you care?" or "If you aren't playing this version of the game your opinion doesn't really count."

I'm not interested enough to go back through the gigantic threads in which we've all seen you say something like the above and post them again. But when people read that, and then you change the tone to "Well, really there's no other option." it sounds like you are a flippin' and a floppin' so you don't look and read like a hypocrite. But I don't think you are a hypocrite. Just Canadian. Which is approximately 2 million times worse.