Scripts abusing in w7

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Re: Scripts abusing in w7

Postby Kaios » Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:39 pm

APXEOLOG wrote:some history notes: bots was even before i started play hnh. For example el_Diablo made AutoIt bot in the beginning of W3 to grind lp by digging soil with hunger tracking etc.
Even if you somehow remove custom clients there still will be bots. There will not be so good of course but anyway..


How can you even compare the two worlds? They are miles apart in how different they were.

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nice try i guess
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Re: Scripts abusing in w7

Postby naosnule » Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:42 pm

Anon9k wrote:It's really funny to see sudden anal pain over foraging bots just now. As far as I know, Dis was using bots (and foraging bots ofc) the whole w6 and it didn't really ruined anything if you ask me. I'd recommend all whiners to go make yourself a couple of bots and start grinding curios if you are so sure that huge amounts of curio in your cupboards will change something majorly.

To prevent shitstorm (hurr durr u r dirty botusing dis scum) I should say that I never used foraging bots, well, I never used the bots for grinding anything to be correct, one foraging trip every day gives me enough curio to feed main character and a few alts, and I even have some leftovers.
So, probably the problem is not in the bots but in your attempts to make others as lazy and stupid as you. At least, bot makers are smart enough to make bots while forum whiners just wants everyone to be as bad as them.

I hope no one will get a major buttpain from that post, I wasnt going to insult anyone, just trying to show you my point of view.


The only bot maker I know of that I am sure I would not call "lazy" would be Trojanz (if he does program bots, he did edit clients at least) because his main area of expertise is not computer science. The amount of effort it takes for someone whose main area of expertise isn't computer science to program efficient bots is far more than it takes someone who does have computer science as main area of expertise.

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Which reminds me: one of the most intelligent people I know is very bad with computers. He types very slowly for instance; slower than an average teenage male. However he is a brilliant mathematician.
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Re: Scripts abusing in w7

Postby Avu » Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:43 pm

One russian mentioning how some other russian botted way before he did so it must be ok then. Good thing there's no pattern here.
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Re: Scripts abusing in w7

Postby Potjeh » Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:56 pm

Foraged curios are OP.
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Re: Scripts abusing in w7

Postby AAlex » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:10 pm

Potjeh wrote:Foraged curios are OP.


Lower the LP gain from majority of the curios and make all forgeables plantable in pots, that way everyone could have a steady amount of LP gain if they work hard on it, without it being majorly OP. (Although this still doesn't help the alt problem).

Then we should make a town in the centre of the map where we can all teleport to, also there should be barter stands there, and maybe some form of currency, silver coins maybe... oh and mushrooms should be poisonous.
(Jokes aside I think the plantables are a good idea)


Maybe make a seperate thread for ideas? You know, instead of pointing fingers like a bunch of pricks.
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Re: Scripts abusing in w7

Postby krikke93 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:16 pm

AAlex wrote:Lower the LP gain from majority of the curios and make all forgeables plantable in pots, that way everyone could have a steady amount of LP gain if they work hard on it, without it being majorly OP. (Although this still doesn't help the alt problem).

This would be even easier to bot
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Re: Scripts abusing in w7

Postby Amanda44 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:17 pm

naosnule wrote:
Another way to deal with it is through social condemnation of it. Sure the offender may be stronger, etc, but would still be seen as 2nd class citizen.

That's how the guard of "old money" dealt with people with "new money". It worked very well. You can be very rich, but if you have 0 class, you are still worth less in their eyes.

Making botting "illegal", would be the start for a similar condemnation movement as well as making a certain group of people, that only bots because it allowed, stop botting.


We all cheat according to our needs, more so than because we can.

As a peaceful hermit I don't feel the need to bot and if I did, where would it end? A bot for farming, one for mining. digging. chopping tree's and so on, to the point where it eventualy becomes pointless 'playing'.

If I were part of a faction however, with 30/50 ppl to feed and equip, would I use bots? In all honesty, I can't answer that but probably, I'm afraid.
For factions the fun is in the competing and history shows they will use any means at their disposal to gain the upper hand regardless of public opinion. I can't see how that is going to change.

It's not that I'm particularly approving it and I agree there are higher and lesser degrees of 'cheating', some clearly more damaging to the game than others but I still don't feel comfortable slating those that do use these practices to advance when I use Enders and exploit the fuel, tanning bugs to make my life easier.

Also, no-one complains when buying better class products via trade from the bot users. :P
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Re: Scripts abusing in w7

Postby AAlex » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:23 pm

krikke93 wrote:This would be even easier to bot


Man you can bot ANYTHING if you really want. Put it this way currently you can forage FOREVER in the world, there is no limit, for planting there would be a time frame between the planting and harvesting, got any better ideas instead of just pissing your pants?
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Re: Scripts abusing in w7

Postby snuby » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:29 pm

AAlex wrote:
krikke93 wrote:This would be even easier to bot


Man you can bot ANYTHING if you really want. Put it this way currently you can forage FOREVER in the world, there is no limit, for planting there would be a time frame between the planting and harvesting, got any better ideas instead of just pissing your pants?


I am sure krikke was thinking about the fact that you could plant inside your walls, which would defeat the point of foraging.
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Re: Scripts abusing in w7

Postby ArvinJA » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:31 pm

Fuck botting, it ruins the game. I'm going to play other games until jorbtar has banned all the bagoousers and botters, because at least in other games you get to make important decisions.
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