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Re: Is anyone "not" using a bot?

Postby Eemerald » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:38 am

Lord_of_War wrote:
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so what negative experience do u feel u've had ingame that related to bots?

I also used vanilla client in my first world too. As far as negative experience its not my negative experience but the impact on the game as a whole I am referring to. No one would doubt that the maze project took an amazing amount of work and that in no way diminishes it. The way the game stands botting is an almost necessity for the amount of time needed. Its what stickman said it ruins the competition. Im not concerned about your bots because you arent a pvp faction. Its how the factions use bots to overpower the new players who actually want to play the game. It might work if everyone botted or it would work if no one botted but there is no middle ground. But anything in between there is no competition. This game lives on competition. This isn't about dictating how people play but having a discussion about how the game works and if that should change so it is a better more equal game that encourages competition. You sound a little angry imo.


I'm not angry, trust me. I have no reason to be.

Competition still exists, I've seen more traders this world than any previous worlds, and early on too. And new ways for players to trade, like the girl who was building mansions for people. Lots of new players who sell bricks, or wrought, or low q metals, or blueberries and other forgeables etc etc.
You don't worry about us because we're not using anything to screw other people over, often quite the opposite, and soon xcom will no doubt share a new project he started that is completely botted, and those who have been a part of it have been amazed at it's efficiency. it's not there to place us at an advantage, in fact what it does it give out for free our best resource to others, which allows them a huge advantage to get ahead at little advantage to us.
I guess for me I see a lot of good from botting cause I see how xcom makes use of it, and it's never to screw someone else over or to gain some huge advantage over others and so forth.

but anyhow. I personally lose very little if bots didn't exist!

sorry it sounded angry, I wouldn't respond in anger:)
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Re: Is anyone "not" using a bot?

Postby Eemerald » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:39 am

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Eemerald wrote:anyhow, it's merely for me to understand, im not trying to be a bitch about it and I hope it's not coming across that way.

Not really, but I just don't think you understand. Ill try tomorrow. ;) And its not about you, its about the game.


but we are all part and parcel of what makes up this game. :P

anyhow, have a good night, it's way past mine!
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Re: Is anyone "not" using a bot?

Postby Lord_of_War » Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:01 am

Eemerald wrote:
Lord_of_War wrote:
Eemerald wrote:anyhow, it's merely for me to understand, im not trying to be a bitch about it and I hope it's not coming across that way.

Not really, but I just don't think you understand. Ill try tomorrow. ;) And its not about you, its about the game.


but we are all part and parcel of what makes up this game. :P

anyhow, have a good night, it's way past mine!

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Re: Is anyone "not" using a bot?

Postby Cranny » Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:58 am

Botting not only alters the big screen and the competition between towns, it also alters the every day life inside a town.

What experiences have the people living in a place where bots have an important rol?. Walking the town to see a char jumping like crazy in the exact same tile for 5 minutes; saying hi to 2 or 3 chars that do not answer; moving something altering the exact layout that the botting char needs and getting a harsh response from the bot manager; talk to someone and wait for an answer just to feel stupid 3 minutes later when you realize that you are talking to a machine.
All do not exactly fit in what I call a pleasant moment. Ofc there are more examples, but this is enough for anyone to get the picture.

And, on the other side, what happens with the bot manager?. Keeps feeling responsible of doing more and more work, because the others know that it is so much easier to do whatever with the bot, and end up getting used to it and becoming lazy. So even it is nice to be needed, this person gets loads of work that do take time and energy and barely contribute to hes/her personal interests.

As you can see my concerns about bots are related to the fact that I play to have fun with people and enjoy human company. In my experience it is very hard to live inside a town where bots have an important rol.
To be fair, I have to say that even I never botted I do believe the game requires it in some small degree, boring repetitive tasks like making bricks, or fluor or chopping, etc., imho are a waste of time.
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Re: Is anyone "not" using a bot?

Postby Lord_of_War » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:04 am

Well said cranny. I'm still working on my reply but it's a unique perspective that I'm greatful you shared. I agree that I play the game for the people as well.
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Re: Is anyone "not" using a bot?

Postby Tonkyhonk » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:37 am

Eemerald wrote:soon xcom will no doubt share a new project he started that is completely botted, and those who have been a part of it have been amazed at it's efficiency.

you call it a project. we used to call it an abuse/exploit. many of us still do.

LoW, stop assuming my point please. "diminishing" is not my point, though many may look at it that way. im attacking her "let 'em eat cake" comments.
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Re: Is anyone "not" using a bot?

Postby Lord_of_War » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:41 am

Please elaborate your position.
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Re: Is anyone "not" using a bot?

Postby chocolaterain » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:44 am

Eemerald wrote:but anyhow. I personally lose very little if bots didn't exist!

#biggestlies2014
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Re: Is anyone "not" using a bot?

Postby Eemerald » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:47 am

Tonkyhonk wrote:
Eemerald wrote:soon xcom will no doubt share a new project he started that is completely botted, and those who have been a part of it have been amazed at it's efficiency.

you call it a project. we used to call it an abuse/exploit. many of us still do.

LoW, stop assuming my point please. "diminishing" is not my point, though many may look at it that way. im attacking her "let 'em eat cake" comments.


exploits exist throughout this game. waiting 15 mins to use 1 branch for food or a block for smelters. or the tub trick, or whatever else. my point was that whether u see it as abuse or not, theres a difference between someone 'exploiting' the game to destroy it for others. or using it to experiment and do things which does benefit other players to gain an advantage.

my 'let em eat cake' comments? ur whole perception of me is somewhat skewed. but im not entirely surprised considering u always seem to want to find issue in everything I do it seems!

and cranny makes valid points, because I know her experience with bots is negative. I ask a question for an answer to understand, not to belittle anyone experience or opinion as you seem to for nearly most points made.
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Re: Is anyone "not" using a bot?

Postby Eemerald » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:47 am

chocolaterain wrote:
Eemerald wrote:but anyhow. I personally lose very little if bots didn't exist!

#biggestlies2014


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