The e-mails I get...

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Re: The e-mails I get...

Postby Flame » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:24 pm

I can confirm. Never had the think "i'm white". It's not someting so much used here.

But i know the word "I'm a stranger", that it's like be a "black", if we wan't to comparate.
Having a pretty mixed origins around my state, i'm a strangers of my state and this often bring me some stupid trouble. Nothing serious anyway.

We are not used on the "white-black" thinking 'cuz we have really few people that aren't white and talking about Privileges, be a man of the State is a privilege. (in my experience)
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Re: The e-mails I get...

Postby RedKGB » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:28 pm

painhertz wrote:
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I can't speak for you dude but I'm not "privileged" nor are many of the other white people I know. Your mileage may vary. Being born white doesn't give access to a money tree somewhere so you can take your sarcasm and shove it up your ass.

When I go into a super market with $10.00 to my name to try to buy groceries for a week and am standing behind some 400 pound black woman, talking on her I-phone 4 with gold jewelry buying $500.00 worth of groceries with an EBT card (Food stamps) I get a little pissed. When I go outside and see that she's driving a 2013 Cadillac yeah, that kind of moves me into a different realm altogether. Come back at me.


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Re: The e-mails I get...

Postby trinh » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:06 pm

Muh...

No multikulti in HnH please.
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Re: The e-mails I get...

Postby Claeyt » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:23 pm

And you 2 wonder why you were dropped by Paradox. I doubt it had anything to do about not allowing a 3rd dev, or the pace of the game development.

I wonder if Totallymoo was gay, I wonder if anyone at Paradox was black, or brown, or muslim, I wonder if there were any women working there. I wonder if while the riots were happening in your own country as Paradox told you they were dropping you, if you wondered or made the connection between your own political thoughts and those riots. I wonder what could have been, if you instead stayed within the boundries of; and protected the standards of decency of your country and the human condition. I wonder if you do fear the future so much that you would take up arms Jorb. I wonder.

I also talked to some people that quit Salem over your rants Jorb. Some of them were pros in the gaming world. Some of them were in companies that could have published your game, or hired you in the future, but because your political views and societal views are so out of step with the world, they probably won't hire you now. Paradox also responded by email to some people (not me) back when, who complained about your views Jorb, I wonder if that had anything to do with your getting dropped.

But hey, you don't care do you, freedom of speech no matter what it makes another person feel like. Let's not mod basic racism or homophobia or whatever, because everybody's entitled to whatever bullshit they want to say behind fake names. Let's not enforce common decency on the forums even tho we control the mods. How did that go over with the Paradox guys.

Here are some comments from this thread and the other that will never get you rehired if the company you apply to checks out these forums. Amazingly some of them happened about a month before Paradox dropped you. I wonder if you had any conversations about them with the Paradox higher ups.

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Claeyt wrote:What edifices of behaviors or morality do you believe progressives tore down and deconstructed?


I find the public expressions of modernity to be shallow, vain, stale, technocratic, petty, animalistic, lonely, ugly, egotistic, spiritually lacking and devoid of meaning, and feel instead far more comfortable in what I perceive to be the vertically oriented, familial, richer, fuller, and more integrated world view and symbolism of what can broadly be described as the old order, that is to say traditional, Christian and Monarchical European societies as they appeared -- rooted in the soil of their making -- before the murderous ravages of the 20th century. When I lament Jacobin deconstruction, it is precisely the deconstruction of traditional, legitimate authority and natural order I lament, i.e. the systematic subversion of symbols such as those of -- most visibly -- throne and altar, and their replacement instead with the symbols of money and the guillotine, that is to say corporate neo-mercantilism and democracy.

I do not believe in democracy, nor in human equality before any yardstick other than God. The forms, concepts, expressions and internal contradictions of liberal secular religion and theology are not mine, and I take no interest in them. I consider beauty to be an objective category, and a human value of no lesser an importance than that of truth or justice.

I believe that God in his image made men and women separate and distinct. I recognize the fundamental distinctness of archetypes such as 'Mother' and 'Father', and I do not believe that human life or understanding is served by reducing such wondrous categories of structured reality to an undifferentiated muddle of indistinct chaos, i.e. "equality". It follows that I feel no particular compulsion to treat men and women "equally", but on the contrary always with respect for the fullness and integrity of their persons.

I consider any assertion of equality as a value to be incompatible with the recognition of human personhood and personality; the fundamental, manifold expressions of harmonious -- that is to say differentiated and fundamentally unequal -- reality, and the most beautiful qualities of the human condition.

I believe it virtuous to put kith and kin before strangers.
I do not consider fornication to be the apex of human personal achievement.

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jorb wrote:
Ghilliedhu wrote:I literally just lost every ounce of respect I had for you as a human being.

You are a repulsive fucking cancer and I sincerely hope you are sterile because the last thing this world needs is more anti-progressive god-fearing nutbags like you.

You fucking disgust me.


Progressive tolerance in action. The bastard child of universal suffrage and public education. ^^


jorb wrote:(Though it deserves to be mentioned that feudalism does have an undeservedly bad reputation. Serfs kept some 3/4:s of their earnings, which is obviously quite the leap up from the inverse proportion that my overlords allow me to keep.)


jorb wrote:Whoever wins, you can be certain that the Bohemian Grove, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg group, and the Council on Foreign Relations are still in session.

jorb wrote:Political power grows from the barrel of a gun. Politics is the means by which one interest dominates another interest and enforces its own will through the ultimate and undeniable adjudication of physical force. The ultimate expression of politics is War. It can be dressed in nice clothing, turned into constitutions and parliaments and prettied up to reduce the instances of violent resolution, but at the end of the day the political market always clears and settles debts in violence.

Man is the wolf of man.

You tell me that I should give up shit -- my supposed "white privilege" -- in order to be nice?

Fuck nice.

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kLauE wrote:shut up faggots

Behold, indeed, another example where the use of "faggot" is not actually used to insult homosexuals for being homosexuals.

If anyone wanted to complain that the comment is immature or uncalled for, I would not necessarily disagree, but if you come ranting about kLauE enforcing his cis-privileges and the patriarchy's rape-culture, I might consider having yo ass for it.

On the third hand, it can perfectly well also be argued that being all butthurt about seeing "faggot" being used on the Internet is just as (if not more) immature as using it, and that one should be trolled a bit into a state of lesser sensitivity. The balance is not always obvious, and I don't think there's any example solution to every conflict related thereto.


Jorb, Loftar:

Dev the games, open your mind, don't fear the future, accept that words hurt and can be outside common decency and should be clipped if this forum is part of society.

If not.....then you'll remain in exile.
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Re: The e-mails I get...

Postby painhertz » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:01 am

Another one of these guys...... if you don't like the games, politics or hairstyles of Salem and Haven's Devs then GET TO FUCKING STEPPING BITCH! your opinion is unwanted, your aims misguided and your "reasoning" for Salem's apparent failure aren't even remotely close to the mark. Salem isn't as fun as Haven and the majority of the potential market for Salem WAS Haven players and sandbox gamers in general. Unless you have a major stick up your ass you worry about the game and not the politics of the game maker. In exile...... LMFAO You have serious mental problems guy.


I also talked to some people that quit Salem over your rants Jorb. Some of them were pros in the gaming world. Some of them were in companies that could have published your game, or hired you in the future, but because your political views and societal views are so out of step with the world, they probably won't hire you now. Paradox also responded by email to some people (not me) back when, who complained about your views Jorb, I wonder if that had anything to do with your getting dropped.


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Re: The e-mails I get...

Postby borka » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:06 am

Claeyt wrote:blah blah blah i know bettter - i have pro buddies that's why i'm pro too .... blah blah blah


Oh boy get a life - another idiotic attempt in the same diction ... kiss the "higher ups" asses but gtfo you're nothing but boring
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Re: The e-mails I get...

Postby DDDsDD999 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:10 am

Claeyt wrote:I also talked to some people that quit Salem over your rants Jorb. Some of them were pros in the gaming world. Some of them were in companies that could have published your game, or hired you in the future, but because your political views and societal views are so out of step with the world, they probably won't hire you now. Paradox also responded by email to some people (not me) back when, who complained about your views Jorb, I wonder if that had anything to do with your getting dropped.

lol get out.
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Re: The e-mails I get...

Postby Claeyt » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:15 am

And here I was told the HnH forums were nicer and smarter. :lol:

Fanboi for the dev's much dipshits. They were fired for a reason. I never said they weren't decent dev's, but their political/social views and apparently yours are pretty out there. :lol:
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Re: The e-mails I get...

Postby jordancoles » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:17 am

Claeyt wrote:And you 2 wonder why you were dropped by Paradox. I doubt it had anything to do about not allowing a 3rd dev, or the pace of the game development.

Claeyt, you're already the guardian of the Slaem forums so please, leave this one be I cannot protect you here :cry:
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Re: The e-mails I get...

Postby cobaltjones » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:19 am

Just ask Paula Dean how not renouncing the use of the word nigger is working out for her career.

You're naive if you think that personal opinions don't affect your professional status if you're public enough about them.
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