Petition from Russian Community. For Developers

[Potjeh]

Uhm, I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.

[Averdie]

As a part of the Russian-speaking community, I couldn't help but to clarify that this petition is illegitimate.
The text was presented to the public 45 minutes before it was posted here (as stated). The first comments in the Russian forum show posters' unawareness about the whole event. Of course, no poll was hold.
The first posts also show a tendency of people's agreement with the petition, but it can be easily explained by the players' ignorance about the situation. This sentiment is formed out of Fedor Sumkin's authority (he does indeed have some) and a default mistrust to so-called Sodom (people aren't sure what it is anymore).

Thank you for your time.

[APXEOLOG]

Uhm, I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say.

Yes, my English is bad. I want to say that our tracking always turned on. And if we see some scents while traveling by boat/on foots - we can track it and maybe raid.

[Potjeh]

What does that have to do with systematic destruction of newbie homestead in our grid, though?

[Koya]

So requests only get implemented if the devs like them, and Koya seemed to have a drastically different vision for H&H than that of devs, since they didn't like many of his suggestions (which were few and far inbetween to start with).

Yes, I see this game alittle different way, and this was good, because if you see only one way, there can be dead end. Thats why critique is verry important.

Koya's posts were long, hard to read, and always seemed biased to what would give him an advantage.

Right... trying explain how to fix LP system that will remove 99.9% of bots and still make LP per action possible, is advantage ?
How to make use for 100% of food that there ingame, is advantage ?
I did a thing that you didn't manage to do to help devs here, I calculated all the LP per second/stamina/food/support seconds(to get resourses for this LP). Writed a nice balance for system, when world was wiped without warning.

As I understand it, they tried botting cone cows. What they didn't realize was that this learning system is all about pumping int, which you can't really bot that easily, so they couldn't believe that their strategy made them fall behind.

Raising int its not a problem at all, make food and use it. Problem is that if you have 10 cupboards of curiocity crafted, and bot that using them, you need nothing else. In case of soil digging you needed a food eaten and good water all the time, and here just craft a lot of curiocity and use start bot. He will calculate what to use and what time to login to use next part. I see this, and against it, because in this case I don't know how it can be fixed.

And their butthurt grew quickly, because the words "Absolute Domination" never sounded so un-true?

We don't have butthurt, because its not Absolute Domination its AD from 2005. We saw how this ruins a game. We don't want to ruin a game to just some players... we ruin game for players that ruin it for others.

It's not like it's unbased. For example, here are some of Koya's Inner Party comments on the new system:

I see nothing wrong in this, you need to know how to abuse system to prevent it. Why didn't you post my text how to prevent using of bots in old system ?

Koya is all lies and bullshit, and much of your problems stem from following his lead.

You know, all people who read your inner conferences and other discussions that I had chance to get, follow me. They could be interesting to jorb too

That's more or less the reason I put Koya on the party in the first place, but if I can't trust him to shoot straight with me -- i.e. if he's more interested in "winning" than in making the game better -- then I have no use for him.

I wasn't interesting in winning, I was interested of new fractions apear to war with. To make even posibility for everybody. Sure you have your point of view, but critique is also verry important. I know you like when you told that stuff you make good, but people who say its shit and wrong, make you do it better.

You didn't understood why in the hell we made a bread, that will crash game 100% and will be in logs, and you will see it, and find this char. You didn't fix anything right away exept things that crash server.
I lost a bet because of you. Others was telling that you will wipe stuff and demand explanation instead write at forum in PM first and ask to show you how it was done. BTW I was online all the time awaiting with them. And my point was that you will get in contact.

When I invited you to Skype to explain this, and other stuff, you get pissed, so be it. You can figure out other stuff we found by yourself now... or maybe never.

You mean to all those newb farms in our grid? I'm not talking villages, I'm talking systematic raiding of people who had little more than a small field, log house and wicker fence. We found dozens of those in our grid, and they led to AD forts. These victims were people who I wouldn't really expect to have criminal skills.

And when I say AD forts, I mostly mean that fort I posted image of earlier, which we know for a fact is AD because Koya posted screens of the same fort to brag about owning a brand new goon skeleton.

Everybody who tried to brake boat of any AD members, even just for fun, was memorized. And killed later.

PS too much writen, so can't answer everybody.

[TeckXKnight]

As a part of the Russian-speaking community, I couldn't help but to clarify that this petition is illegitimate.
The text was presented to the public 45 minutes before it was posted here (as stated). The first comments in the Russian forum show posters' unawareness about the whole event. Of course, no poll was hold.
The first posts also show a tendency of people's agreement with the petition, but it can be easily explained by the players' ignorance about the situation. This sentiment is formed out of Fedor Sumkin's authority (he does indeed have some) and a default mistrust to so-called Sodom (people aren't sure what it is anymore).

Thank you for your time.

No, thank you for presenting that information. By any chance, can you say if there has been a long flowing undercurrent of this mistrust for some time or is this a recent thing?

[Potjeh]

Ah yes, now even Jorb is a liar, and Koya remains the lone bastion of truth.

[ewlol]

I would like you AD and Russian community to realize that when us Sodom members discover a bug or when we find exploitable things, we report them, and we are reimbursed for our honesty.

I hope you know would know that the extent of Sodom using bugs was ONLY in World 3. A Loom macro was used, and a clay and soil digging macro, and I will also add that I reported my own comrades to Loftar. I told him that people in Sodom were macroing clay inside the safety of caves. I will not discuss the repercussions of my actions, but you should realize that we don't exploit the system so that we go far ahead of everyone.

Take for instance Kitsune in World 4. Two of our members had developer items. We report bugs that we find ASAP. To be honest, in Kitsune we would rather report bugs so that AD would NOT use them against us. I personally was scared of AD when I realized the extent of their macroing. Their characters had 10x as much LP as ours.

Now, for the entire situation yesterday, Hiro and Darki discovered how to recreate the massive LP bug. What did they do? They reported it ASAP so that the world would be fair for all. They received a gift in return for being noble. A curio, gold bar, and cape each. Neither of them can even use the whale because it require 40 INT to use. And the gold bar we cannot even use until we have discovered gold ON OUR OWN VIA A SMELTER.

Now, for the entire accusation that Jorb is playing favorites. Sodom members have built up a reputation in order to become candidates for the inner party. (I am not even one of them, if you are wondering). They have played for a long time and try earnestly to make this game BETTER. They do not inhibit their bug reporting in order to progress their characters ahead of everyone else. There is a distinction among Koya and the other inner party members. Koya tries and maybe continues to try and become the best faction out there, and will delay his bug reporting in order to do so. That is why he was kicked out and why he shouldn't be a member of the forum any longer.

I know not of any defense to what I have just said.

[Averdie]

No, thank you for presenting that information. By any chance, can you say if there has been a long flowing undercurrent of this mistrust for some time or is this a recent thing?

It has all started with Stalingrad and Bitardsk. I don't believe the Russian-speaking community as a whole will ever forget it or forgive those who is responsible. Whoever they believe it is.

[Potjeh]

It's Klaue and a couple of his buddies.Which made most of the H&H community, myself included, outraged. Nothing was done, of course, since those guys were the dominant power in world 2. Well, Onionfighter, a member of my group, did kill Klaue a couple of times, but thanks to full trad and einher it didn't do much