Yolan wrote:dagrimreefah wrote:jorb wrote:Modern public debate is heavily informed by a subversive and eclectic blend of Marxism and Psychoanalysis (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_school), which from its academic beginnings has petered down and out into the cultural mainlines to become latter day American leftism and progressivism, which in turn dominate the political left throughout the entire extended American Empire. Publicly professing disbelief in the dogmas of this secular religion -- on issues of culture, gender, race and economy -- can easily cost you your job, your union card or simply your sacred honor. I find this ideology insufferable on account of its many internal contradictions. Observe, for example, the absurdity of liberalism endorsing all manner of ethnic nationalisms when such are being displayed by non-white peoples, while at the same time denouncing the same phenomenon as outright sinful when expressed by white peoples. I could make a list, but suffice it to say that the double standards disgust me.
My fucking hero. Couldn't of said it any better myself. I have been disgusted by these double standards for years.
Dude, if Jorb is your hero, you need new bloody heroes. You want to be disgusted at double standards, you could start with the justice system and the way it systematically penalizes you for being of color even when the crime is the same.
From Wikipedia.
"Ethnic nationalism or ethnicism is a form of nationalism wherein the "nation" is defined in terms of ethnicity."
Now, why oh why could it be that expressions of White ethnic nationalism are considered sinful in the modern world? Thinking... thinking... oh right, because it led to Europe tearing itself apart in an orgy of murder and death and despair.
Ethnic nationalisms have a tendency of leading in that direction, and not just when its white people doing it. I.E. see Japan. (
http://thisjapaneselife.org/2011/07/27/ ... an-norway/)
I've been feeling uneasy and suspicious about the vibe around here for a while, but I guess this kind of puts it in the open. Jorb seems to think (correct me if I'm wrong) that modern liberal thinking, informed as it is by all that marxism and psychology, is 'subversive'. Subversive of what? He doesn't go out and say it, but perhaps he means something like the cultural strength and pride of white European nations. They are weakened by an internally contradictory ideology that raises up anything non European as worthy of adoration while playing down that which is European as not worthy of respect or attention. There is a grain of truth in this view I think, but its largely a caricature of liberalism.
The biggest problem is this. If we try and locate the true value of European culture in something like a white 'ethnicity' it misses the whole fucking point. European culture should be treasured and protected, but that culture at its heart has something like an aiming for the universal, for truth and for freedom. This transcends ethnicity. It transcends culture. If somebody gets it in their head that 'everything is relative to culture' (as some liberals do) then yes, that person is an idiot. But unless you are twenty years old your political views should be a little more refined than that.
A movie I think some of you guys should watch...
American History X.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXaZENPQrsw
Your linking wikipedia articles does nothing to change my mind. Also interjecting white ethnicity into an argument that wasn't even about white ethnicity just shows that you are an exploiter of racism, as long as you think it supports your argument, like the poverty pimps Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson do. Please come up with a more meaningful argument then pointing your finger at a bloody white history. But I wonder, why are you so willingly blind to the black genocide that has been going on in Africa for generations, namely the situation in the Congo in the early 90's? Millions of blacks died to the hands of other blacks. But just turn a blind eye to that, huh? History can be bloody, no matter the race, so go fuck yourself you self-loathing tool.
Yolan wrote:You want to be disgusted at double standards, you could start with the justice system and the way it systematically penalizes you for being of color even when the crime is the same.
I never said I WANTED to be disgusted, retard.
Also, what the fuck are you talking about? Half the cops in my town alone are black, and I see white people being arrested all the time for the exact same crimes black people are. You're just parroting shit you heard on TV and movies. Why not actually get off your soft pasty leftist ass and go experience the world before spewing out more ignorant bullshit?. I have been arrested and put in jail more times than I can count. Not ONCE have I seen black people being persecuted or treated any worse than whites. This is experience talking, not the regurgitated hyperbole that you are shitting out when you type.
Also, nice way to fill in the blanks. Your entire argument is just accusing others of being white supremecists. Sounds like the only one around here who constantly has RACE on their mind is you, you fucking self-hating racist piece of shit.
Hating white people != you're not a racist. I know that's what FOX and Time magazine taught you, but its not the way it is.
By the way, linking to shitty movies like American History X... Nice educational material there, dumb ass.