The month of November

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Re: The month of November

Postby Wolfang » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:26 pm

juhubert wrote:Dulce et Decorum est

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of disappointed shells that dropped behind.

GAS! Gas! Quick, boys!-- An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And floundering like a man in fire or lime.--
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,--
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

Wilfred Edward Salter Owen MC (18 March 1893 – 4 November 1918)

This poem was written in Flanders Fields, the place where I come from. I think most of my family fought in WW1, the ones that didn't fled to spain.

Most of my family also fought in WW2, on both sides.

I really do enjoy the military tunes the British Empire used when marching their soldiers into battle. Especially bagpipe music but March of the Grenadiers has to be the best march tune of all time.

at 1:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUFTcrbRyEM
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Re: The month of November

Postby GrandProject » Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:02 am

I would like to thank all who have contributed positively to this thread, it feels great to see people remember, acknowledge, and respect those who have given their lives for what they beleive in.

I am a Canadian, and respect not only those troops from my own country, but those from all over the world, wether they be Canadian, American, British, Finnish, or what have you. I think to fight for one's belief in honourable, and should be noted wether one agrees with the reason or not -again, this is my belief and I don't expect others to conform to it, but please only post positives, if your against war, or this day, or other such, go somewhere else- Thank you.
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Re: The month of November

Postby Tonopah » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:41 am

Massed Pipes And Drums - start it at minute 5:30
Scotland the Brave
Halls of Montezuma

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Re: The month of November

Postby Vorfeed » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:34 pm

11 November is a independence day in poland so we are thinking a lot about our fallen soldiers and others who gave their lives fighting for freedom :(
anyway this song can really boost my patriotism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01IaKb6DmTw&p

You will have a soldier’s funeral without having been a soldier
the only ritual I am acquainted with a little
There will be no candles no singing only cannon-fuses and bursts
drums drums I know nothing exquisite

Zbigniew Herbert
"Elegy of Fortinbras"
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Re: The month of November

Postby Taikand » Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:26 pm

GrandProject wrote:I would like to thank all who have contributed positively to this thread, it feels great to see people remember, acknowledge, and respect those who have given their lives for what they beleive in.

I am a Canadian, and respect not only those troops from my own country, but those from all over the world, wether they be Canadian, American, British, Finnish, or what have you. I think to fight for one's belief in honourable, and should be noted wether one agrees with the reason or not -again, this is my belief and I don't expect others to conform to it, but please only post positives, if your against war, or this day, or other such, go somewhere else- Thank you.


If this thread is to honour all people that died for what they belive in, can I celebrate the October Revolution?
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Re: The month of November

Postby jorb » Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:04 pm

Taikand wrote:the October Revolution


Wasn't in October, wasn't a revolution.
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Re: The month of November

Postby Taikand » Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:57 pm

jorb wrote:
Taikand wrote:the October Revolution


Wasn't in October, wasn't a revolution.

T'was the day it was celebrated, 7th of November/25 October.And I know you're an AynRandist, but I can't understand how you can not call that a revolution.
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Re: The month of November

Postby niltrias » Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:08 pm

Alright, I am going to catch heat for this, I know. But still.
Advance apologies for the trolling, but it is really the way I feel.
I am a veteran, 2/4 of my parents children are veterans, over half my high-school male buddies are veterans. I come from a long line of veterans, at least 4 generations running. I have nothing but respect for US military veterans. BUT.

These days, our (I mean American) vets are not dying for freedom, liberty or even an ideology. They are dying because of wall street first, and W's "some guy shot at ma pah!" mentality second. I do not denigrate the troops in the least. But they should not be risking their lives for such crap reasons.

Flame on!
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Re: The month of November

Postby Taikand » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:34 pm

niltrias wrote:Alright, I am going to catch heat for this, I know. But still.
Advance apologies for the trolling, but it is really the way I feel.
I am a veteran, 2/4 of my parents children are veterans, over half my high-school male buddies are veterans. I come from a long line of veterans, at least 4 generations running. I have nothing but respect for US military veterans. BUT.

These days, our (I mean American) vets are not dying for freedom, liberty or even an ideology. They are dying because of wall street first, and W's "some guy shot at ma pah!" mentality second. I do not denigrate the troops in the least. But they should not be risking their lives for such crap reasons.

Flame on!

When did they fight for such things as freedom and liberty?And they are fighting for an ideology, the one with the underlined words.
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Re: The month of November

Postby sabinati » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:57 pm

Taikand wrote:When did they fight for such things as freedom and liberty?


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