Tree Formula Discussion

[cobaltjones]

Why would anyone buy a formula that they already have? It's not like knowing the formula will suddenly make all your trees better.

DoG is a huge weirdo/nerd when it comes to this sort of thing. It makes him feel better than others to know.

[DatOneGuy]

Would still be pointless, because again if you sold us the 'formula' (which isn't guaranteed correct anyway, it's just your 'best guess' as it is for anything so far)

Literally every formula you or anyone else could come up with would be a "best guess" unless it came from loftar himself.

Hence testing it against tens of thousands of results. If I can manage to get 200 clay of the same Q for 20 tree pots of the same exact quality, I plan to do some testing to start off for the +/-, to be 100% sure of it, and use it as a control I'll work from.

Also alpha, as for 100 out of 100, I've had formulas work for thousands of trees and then suddenly fuck up with a few. Not worth paying for, and again if you want to sell your formula, put it in another thread.

[Skorm]

Would still be pointless, because again if you sold us the 'formula' (which isn't guaranteed correct anyway, it's just your 'best guess' as it is for anything so far)

Literally every formula you or anyone else could come up with would be a "best guess" unless it came from loftar himself.

Hence testing it against tens of thousands of results. If I can manage to get 200 clay of the same Q for 20 tree pots of the same exact quality, I plan to do some testing to start off for the +/-, to be 100% sure of it, and use it as a control I'll work from.

Also alpha, as for 100 out of 100, I've had formulas work for thousands of trees and then suddenly fuck up with a few. Not worth paying for, and again if you want to sell your formula, put it in another thread.

Do you really NEED the formula or is it just that you WANT the EXACT formula ?

Edit: Sounds Less Offensive.

[sillynipples]

I'm glad someone is doing this
Add whatever you find to the wiki!

[RongoMatane]

If you have a formula that works for thousands of trees and fuck up with a few, isn't that already enough? Seems like a great estimate to me if it's 99+% correct.
Besides that - if the formula is correct for thousands of trees and suddenly doesn't work for very few - than its most likely not a wrong formula but wrong data sets. I mean, if you collect data for 1000 trees, there will be a few typos in it. You can quite safely assume then, that the formula is correct. Would you mind sharing?

[ewlol]

lolalpha. trying your damnedest to have the power in your hands by offering us some snippet of information for items.

then you pull the classic "You dont even have a chance to get it now thanks to ewlol"

i honestly hope whoever is stupid enough to buy that from you tells the whole world right after.

[novaalpha]

lolalpha. trying your damnedest to have the power in your hands by offering us some snippet of information for items.

then you pull the classic "You dont even have a chance to get it now thanks to ewlol"

i honestly hope whoever is stupid enough to buy that from you tells the whole world right after.

I'm just gonna laugh in your face

[DeadlyPencil]

i bet its the formula gato listed but with correction for the tree quality if that works most of the time. I think the tree formula has the same problem as with the board formula.

for example when you cut up a tree board, the sqrt(saw*treeq) works most of the time, however it will sometimes turn out better or worse than that formula shows.

however its not the rounding of the formula thats the problem with it, its something else. almost like the q of either the tree or the saw is keeping its decimals and not being floored like in all other formulas. its probably the same in your tree formula.

awhile ago i suspected it was legacy code left over from when trees could be reduced in quality that was causing the problem. so basically if you stole stuff from the tree it would reduce its q.

anyways, regardless of that last point, i suspect your problem is the same situation with board q and the tree might keep its decimal value somehow. I suggest using only q10 tree seeds for your testing if this is the case.

[novaalpha]

for example when you cut up a tree board, the sqrt(saw*treeq) works most of the time, however it will sometimes turn out better or worse than that formula shows.

lol what

[DeadlyPencil]

for example when you cut up a tree board, the sqrt(saw*treeq) works most of the time, however it will sometimes turn out better or worse than that formula shows.

lol what

K, you should probably stay out of formula threads and actually try them instead of assuming what people told you is correct. maybe thats why you think your tree formula is 100% acturate.