To veterans only

[Potjeh]

But what's to stop you from having fun while getting it going, why so negative sir? perhaps she could network with the people that run said vaults and maybe even get protection from them - It would not only help her but perhaps they too would enjoy less nub killing and more actual PvP?

Because it'd be wrecked to hell before she could get 3 stands together. As for those vault dwellers, they can't be reasoned with.

[kaizokuroof]

But what's to stop you from having fun while getting it going, why so negative sir? perhaps she could network with the people that run said vaults and maybe even get protection from them - It would not only help her but perhaps they too would enjoy less nub killing and more actual PvP?

Because it'd be wrecked to hell before she could get 3 stands together. As for those vault dwellers, they can't be reasoned with.

So turn "New Constantinople" into a trading vault? and if I recall correctly wasn't the W3 nople always getting vandal/stolen from? It would create a game for all those tough veteran players just like op except who like PvP - They could be "rangers". Not everyone has a vault and is out to wreck shit. Why so negativeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?

[Potjeh]

This is not world 3, and frankly I have neither time nor will to go through every detail of why it's not. Suffice to say that Constantinople would never work in this world, and if you don't want to take my word on it go do your own forum research.

[WarpedWiseMan]

World 3 Constantinople had a world wide vested interest in hunting down and killing griefers and people hadn't broken the game mechanics like the Russians have this world.

To answer the OP: Haven & Hearth is like a mountain. A mountain of fun. But the thing about this mountain is all the fun is 7-12 feet above the ground. As you climb and experience new things, new people and accomplish new tasks you are enjoying the game, but as soon as you hit the plateau of repetition that is the quality grind, that fun factor drops off severely until you find yourself standing overlooking a picturesque vista right before throwing yourself over the edge and splattering against the cold, hard rocks below.

[ysbryd]

World 3 Constantinople had a world wide vested interest in hunting down and killing griefers and people hadn't broken the game mechanics like the Russians have this world.

To answer the OP: Haven & Hearth is like a mountain. A mountain of fun. But the thing about this mountain is all the fun is 7-12 feet above the ground. As you climb and experience new things, new people and accomplish new tasks you are enjoying the game, but as soon as you hit the plateau of repetition that is the quality grind, that fun factor drops off severely until you find yourself standing overlooking a picturesque vista right before throwing yourself over the edge and splattering against the cold, hard rocks below.

lol maybe not quite what I was looking for, but yeah did consider just knocking on pande or NNNs gate and yelling come at me bro... for which I would last for precisely the time it took for them to actually stop laughing and hit me.. but I guess it beats drowning or trying to jump off a mountain in this 2 d world heh

[barracuda546]

I think alot of the fun in Q grinding was lost when farming was made +2 -5.. It used to be alot more rewarding than it is now a days

[Potjeh]

Meh, it's just pushing numbers in either case, only fun for accountants that love their job.

[barracuda546]

Yeah I suppose, but I just feel in end game everything is so slow and you don't really feel your improving all that much. Hell, the difference between 600 and 700 ua is almost pointless

[borka]

In early W4 i spawned an Alt to help a newbie with his first steps - he didn't listen and got boared...stayed in the area met a nice welsh Lady with a Witch Daughter .... missed her in W5...

There is still the idea of having a live reporter that gets invited to tell about the raids and stuff ... some nolifer with loads of spare time who is neutral and that way trusted by everyone : WHnHB?!? Welsh HnH Broadcast

[Mitudev]

I play as an excuse to hang out and listen to podcasts. After dying, I need get to the point where I can fight three bears. Two was not enough.