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Re: Did any Americans watch "Your Interview with the Preside

Postby painhertz » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:21 am

Saif_Mahlik wrote:They just say what the people want to hear and do what the corporations pay them to do.

Obama = War in Iraq/Afghanistan will end, + Votes = WIN!
Corporations = War will not end *Pays Obama x amount of money* = Corporations digging out more oil/minerals



Iraq ended a couple months ago and Afghanistan is being drawn down as we speak. = You are clueless.
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Re: Did any Americans watch "Your Interview with the Preside

Postby Sitef » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:52 am

why would you even consider voting obama again. He lied so many times ( I know every politician does ), but man he did it so many times, its criminal. Also congrats you are living in a police state now.
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Re: Did any Americans watch "Your Interview with the Preside

Postby Saif_Mahlik » Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:55 am

painhertz wrote:
Saif_Mahlik wrote:They just say what the people want to hear and do what the corporations pay them to do.

Obama = War in Iraq/Afghanistan will end, + Votes = WIN!
Corporations = War will not end *Pays Obama x amount of money* = Corporations digging out more oil/minerals



Iraq ended a couple months ago and Afghanistan is being drawn down as we speak. = You are clueless.


He said he would have ended it years before this current deadline but the War only ended a few months ago due tot he presidential race coming up for him to gain votes.

He did not fulfil his promise thus he is a liar, you sir! are clueless about how the World works.
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Re: Did any Americans watch "Your Interview with the Preside

Postby WarpedWiseMan » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:36 pm

I obviously dislike Obama, but even I can see the reality that ending a war is not like flipping a switch. There's probably close to a million things that have to happen starting with the mammoth task of moving men and materiel. And the U.S. wouldn't just pull out and let the insurgents take back what we paid for in blood and wealth no matter who was in charge.

And fuck you guy that says we live in a police state. America is still the land of the Free and we will bomb the shit out of the rocks you call home and send an armed group of angry Seal Team 6 commandos to kill you and everyone you hold dear if you fuck with us. Ask Osama and 9/10ths of his top guys how dicking with 'Merica worked out for them.
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Re: Did any Americans watch "Your Interview with the Preside

Postby painhertz » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:42 pm

Yeah, my wife works for the United States Army and I live on an Army base but I'm clueless. Lets not forget that the base I live on does 75% of the combat training for deployments. My wife's boss PCS'ed to Iraq a little over a year ago to begin the draw down and he's in the Army medical services, needless to say one of the last to be drawn down. Say what you want about Obama but the Iraq draw down began less than a year after he was elected.
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Re: Did any Americans watch "Your Interview with the Preside

Postby WatsonX » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:45 pm

Zampfeo wrote:
WatsonX wrote:So maybe it's time to stop blaming the government for all of our problems, and take a long cold look in the mirror. We can fix our own problem if we only try.


So we should somehow change human nature? Greed isn't cultural, it's a product of evolution and is present in every human being.

The government IS the problem. This is not a democracy, it is a republic that requires hundreds of thousands of dollars to run for any office where bribery is not only legal, it is the norm and required to pay election costs.

There are 4 fatal flaws with the US government:

1) Political parties: It's not republicans vs democrats, political issues are not that black and white.
2) Lobbyists who commit bribery: Who cares what the people want if I can make a fortune pleasing corporations?
3) The costs of running for political office: It costs hundreds of thousands for congressmen and nearly a billion dollars for most presidential candidates. This not only forces politicians to get their money back via lobbyists, it creates an environment where all politicians are apart of the upper class.
4) People simply aren't educated: There's no source for unbiased news to give to the common citizen. Most people choose a side and vote for whoever labels him or herself a democrat or republican.
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Re: Did any Americans watch "Your Interview with the Preside

Postby WatsonX » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:45 pm

Zampfeo wrote:So we should somehow change human nature? Greed isn't cultural, it's a product of evolution and is present in every human being.

The government IS the problem. This is not a democracy, it is a republic that requires hundreds of thousands of dollars to run for any office where bribery is not only legal, it is the norm and required to pay election costs.

There are 4 fatal flaws with the US government:

1) Political parties: It's not republicans vs democrats, political issues are not that black and white.
2) Lobbyists who commit bribery: Who cares what the people want if I can make a fortune pleasing corporations?
3) The costs of running for political office: It costs hundreds of thousands for congressmen and nearly a billion dollars for most presidential candidates. This not only forces politicians to get their money back via lobbyists, it creates an environment where all politicians are apart of the upper class.
4) People simply aren't educated: There's no source for unbiased news to give to the common citizen. Most people choose a side and vote for whoever labels him or herself a democrat or republican.


No, what you are doing now is making assumptions of human nature. Its not so black and white as saying people are good or people are bad. The prevailing philosophical thought throughout our development as a nation has been that people are inherently bad (greedy), but does it make it true? Is it true because some French guy thought it was over 200 years ago? Their are plenty of unselfish and selfless human beings, even in the U.S. We do live in a culture that promotes greed. Evidence is all around you.

Now onto your 4 points:
1) I partly agree with you here. I agree with you that having only two parties does not represent the interests of the majority. I disagree with your statement: "political issues are not that black and white." I don't disagree with what you're saying here explicitly. I disagree with your implications that democrats and republicans are two completely different things. I have found that the two parties are, in fact, the same thing; two sides of the same coin, if you will.

On points 2), 3), and 4), I became confused on if you were trying to refute me, or if you were agreeing with me. Since these points, which I agree with, are in the post you are replying to. Did you miss them?

In closing, I'd like to point out that it is so easy to blame others for our faults and problems. The majority eats it up (remember the nazis?). People don't like to think that they could be part of the problem. Its in our passive acceptance of how the government works now, that the government is allowed to operate that way. So, while we STILL HAVE the power, we need to make a change. Tomorrow will be too late. The government IS NOT the problem! Sheepism IS THE PROBLEM!
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Re: Did any Americans watch "Your Interview with the Preside

Postby burgingham » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:01 pm

Warpy you so American ^^

Also, the Americans being disappointed by Obama are so funny. That guy is a freaking gift of god to you, but it takes a while to cure all those diseases the Republicans left there especially when they are still blocking and sabotaging his every move (They block his attempts to fullfill his promises and then they go out and scream: "Look he is a liar!" and you guys believe it). Also, many of the bad things the Bush administration is responsible for only now come into effect thus making it look like Obama did it to an untrained eye.
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Re: Did any Americans watch "Your Interview with the Preside

Postby WatsonX » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:14 pm

burgingham wrote: (They block his attempts to fullfill his promises and then they go out and scream: "Look he is a liar!" and you guys believe it).


Sheepism at its finest. I wish it wasn't only foreigners (non-Americans) who could see it.
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Re: Did any Americans watch "Your Interview with the Preside

Postby lawton » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:37 pm

burgingham wrote:
Zampfeo wrote:
So we should somehow change human nature? Greed isn't cultural, it's a product of evolution and is present in every human being.


lol

loftar wrote:Curiously, these three problems are caused by the Democracy which you so extol, and the fourth wouldn't be a problem without it.


These are problems of the American demcrocacy though. That should be pointed out I think.

ITS CUTE HOW U THINK IT ONLY AFFECTS AMERICANS

THAT'S BULLSHIT AND U FUCKIN KNOW IT BURG
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