Does God Exist?

[WarpedWiseMan]

He

Proving again the answer is: No.

Why would you only quote the He part of He/She?

Oh, oh, that's right, you are a complete muppet. A godless heathen muppet.

[Sarchi]

Have you ever really studied how complicated your circulatory system is? There's a God or Guiding Hand or some form of Creator. Probably not the Christian version. Definitely not the Arab version.

He probably looks down on most of you and wonders why He/She bothered in the first place.

>I think things are complex.
>Therefore a god must exist.

[ninja_yodeler]

Have you ever really studied how complicated your circulatory system is? There's a God or Guiding Hand or some form of Creator.

>my mind is too small to comprehend my own body, fuck logic, there must be a fucking wizard floating around in space.

[jordancoles]

WWM is right, which is why I said I believe that there is SOMETHING. It doesn't have to be a floating magic man, but everything around us is far too complex to just happen for the sake of happening. As of right now as far as evolution goes the interventionalist theory seems to make sense. Based on bones found (at the moment) it seems that we were developing very slowly and then out of no where started evolving at a much quicker pace meaning that something may have stepped in during the process to help it along. Although we could easily find more evidence tomorrow to prove that we were simply missing a step in our evolution and that there is in fact no gap at all in our progression.

[Tonkyhonk]

"Religions die when they are proved to be true. Science is the record of dead religions."　

[dagrimreefah]

Oh, oh, that's right, you are a complete muppet. A godless heathen muppet.

Not exactly. I just prefer to rely on logic, science, and observation. Emotionalism is fun and all, but it really doesn't get anything done does it.

[dagrimreefah]

WWM is right, which is why I said I believe that there is SOMETHING. It doesn't have to be a floating magic man, but everything around us is far too complex to just happen for the sake of happening. As of right now as far as evolution goes the interventionalist theory seems to make sense. Based on bones found (at the moment) it seems that we were developing very slowly and then out of no where started evolving at a much quicker pace meaning that something may have stepped in during the process to help it along. Although we could easily find more evidence tomorrow to prove that we were simply missing a step in our evolution and that there is in fact no gap at all in our progression.

Just because you cannot grasp the complexity of reality, you find comfort with the easier notion of "something"? Don't you think you're cutting your potential for a true scientific understanding of reality just a little short there?

[jordancoles]

WWM is right, which is why I said I believe that there is SOMETHING. It doesn't have to be a floating magic man, but everything around us is far too complex to just happen for the sake of happening. As of right now as far as evolution goes the interventionalist theory seems to make sense. Based on bones found (at the moment) it seems that we were developing very slowly and then out of no where started evolving at a much quicker pace meaning that something may have stepped in during the process to help it along. Although we could easily find more evidence tomorrow to prove that we were simply missing a step in our evolution and that there is in fact no gap at all in our progression.

Just because you cannot grasp the complexity of reality, you find comfort with the easier notion of "something"? Don't you think you're cutting your potential for a true scientific understanding of reality just a little short there?

Hardly. Cutting it short would mean I slapped the tag of Jesus as the "something". I'm open minded to a lot of "if's" and that leaves room for understanding. I'm not putting my faith into anything I'm simply saying that science as of right now has a gap in the remains that support human evolution. That's the whole reasoning behind the interventionalist's theory.

[ninja_yodeler]

WWM is right, which is why I said I believe that there is SOMETHING. It doesn't have to be a floating magic man, but everything around us is far too complex to just happen for the sake of happening. As of right now as far as evolution goes the interventionalist theory seems to make sense. Based on bones found (at the moment) it seems that we were developing very slowly and then out of no where started evolving at a much quicker pace meaning that something may have stepped in during the process to help it along. Although we could easily find more evidence tomorrow to prove that we were simply missing a step in our evolution and that there is in fact no gap at all in our progression.

that step would most likely be humans (or human like ancestors) starting to live in groups or colonies, where they start to develop reasoning beyond instinctual habit, they understand more of whats going on around them, and as they begin to make a change to their surroundings their bodies would change with it, you live in a cold environment you suddenly make warm, over the next few generations those traits specific to the cold environment will start to disappear and be replaced by others.

put that on the scale of an entire race and you can probably start to see that leap in evolution.

I watched an amazing doco on a octopuses that focused on a region where they were (for the first time ever recorded) starting to live in groups and colonies, not just to mate, but for their lives, they conducted tests where it proved one octopus could learn from another, and when tested against an octopus from another place it showed much greater cognitive reasoning power etc etc. They were most likely documenting another animal taking the first steps of the very leap in evolution you said about...

something like that anyway

er, none of that has to do with your latest post

[dagrimreefah]

Hardly. Cutting it short would mean I slapped the tag of Jesus as the "something". I'm open minded to a lot of "if's" and that leaves room for understanding. I'm not putting my faith into anything I'm simply saying that science as of right now has a gap in the remains that support human evolution. That's the whole reasoning behind the interventionalist's theory.

If the "gaps" in the theory of evolution you speak of are the missing transitional fossils, you must realize how rare transitional fossils are, and how brief such transitional species spent on this Earth. That is not a gap. To label that a gap is like labeling the inability of humans to quantify gravity a gap in the theory of special relativity.

If that is not the "gap" you speak of, please specify.