Your Personal Stance on Zion/Isreal

[MagicManICT]

Soldiers are made to protect a country, not to attack citizens and oppress.
If the US military gave the orders to start gassing entire cities I surely hope the soldiers or whoever took the order wouldn't do it. Their job is to protect.

You are mistaken, ser. Soldiers have exactly one purpose: to kill another upon the orders of someone with power over said soldier. Whether that power is used in a manner of protection, destruction, or some other means is entirely up to the ones controlling the soldiers. This is why we have a civilian position in the US that oversees all actions of the military (at least that's the theory).

No matter what a soldier does under the orders of their leaders, one can say it is to protect. What exactly is being protected may be something altruistic such as a belief in justice or an attempt to save civilian lives. Other times it is only protecting the self-interest of the commanding officers of the army such as you see in many third world nations.

[COCKFIST]

Zionism is a philosophy which believes in Jewish supremacy basically, Zionist control the media, the banks, Hollywood and many other instutes thus making them the most influential people in America but the thing is they don't give two shits about America and nor are they loyal to America, there aims are to leach of the USA and put the funds into Israel.

They are a force that needs to be bought down ASAP, they are nothing but a bunch of facist Nazis.

(REMEMBER!!!! You do -NOT- have to be Jewish to be a Zionist and majority of the Jewish people are -NOT- Zionists! So this is no excuse to bash the Jewish people)

are Zionists and Masons or free Masons or whatever the same?

Please just... don't.

[saska123321]

i find this thread very interesting

[Nask]

Zionism is a philosophy which believes in Jewish supremacy basically, Zionist control the media, the banks, Hollywood and many other instutes thus making them the most influential people in America but the thing is they don't give two shits about America and nor are they loyal to America, there aims are to leach of the USA and put the funds into Israel.

They are a force that needs to be bought down ASAP, they are nothing but a bunch of facist Nazis.

(REMEMBER!!!! You do -NOT- have to be Jewish to be a Zionist and majority of the Jewish people are -NOT- Zionists! So this is no excuse to bash the Jewish people)

are Zionists and Masons or free Masons or whatever the same?

Please just... don't.

-BUMP-


What did i do wrong?

[Nask]

Hmm, i don't know if its true, i read the Torah once, just because i was curious... i read it with translation and there were pieces which told people to use violence to take over ''the holy land''

They should kill everyone and burn everything down, even the trees which were planted by the people who have lived there.

I believe the Torah -can't say anything about the bible since i haven't read it- has been changed, i think the reason for this might be to seperate the Jews and Christians from the Muslims, actually Jews, Christians and Muslims are brothers (from the same family). I think this will be a mystery untill we will die.

[Saif_Mahlik]

Hmm, i don't know if its true, i read the Torah once, just because i was curious... i read it with translation and there were pieces which told people to use violence to take over ''the holy land''

They should kill everyone and burn everything down, even the trees which were planted by the people who have lived there.

I believe the Torah -can't say anything about the bible since i haven't read it- has been changed, i think the reason for this might be to seperate the Jews and Christians from the Muslims, actually Jews, Christians and Muslims are brothers (from the same family). I think this will be a mystery untill we will die.

In the Torah according to the Jewish people it states God will give the Israelis the holy land, however the Zionists used violence to take over Israel using advanced and superior weaponry which caused mass bloodshed and terror amongst the Arabs which led them to flee there homes and leave behind a life which they had built for themselves and their kids even though the Arabs had settled and lived on the lands of 1400+ years. If that is the case then the Native Americans should be allowed to claim America, the Mexicans to retake New Mexico and so on.

One argument used to justify the Israelis return is that they were before the Arabs and it was there land which is untrue as the Arabs were in Palestine before any other people as the Egyption Empire in 3000BC extended to as far as Palestine.

Anyways to answer you question is Masonry like Zionism? No Zionism is an extreme and a radical form of promoting Jewish supremacy (Again I stress many Jews are against Zionism). Zionists pretty much own the House of Congress (Which unsurprisingly has a 85% disapproval rating), they own Hollywood, the Banks, the media as a whole and a number of Government institutions. If you aren't a Zionist then there isn't much of a chance in terms of you getting into power. They pretty much run America to be honest and there loyalty is not towards America but towards Israel, so in a sense America is being occupied by a foreign force.

But in this War there was limited bloodshed (Apart from the actions of the Jewish Defence league which killed dozens of people in targeted assassinations of those who spoke out against Zionism). Instead in this War they occupied America by getting into positions of power and running it like a democratic dictatorship. As the candidates who speak out against Zionism will have limited funds to do campaigning as the most powerful lobby is America (AIPAC - American Israel Public Affairs Committee) will not fund them and they will receive no media exposure but instead will be politically assassinated by calling them a rapist, racist and so on.

Masons are different because they are an idealogical people who base there beliefs on theories and so forth and have no connection to Jewish supremacy, but this is another story.

[Nask]

Hmm, so its kinda like thus muslim terrorists (terrorist, so actually they aren't muslims, its forbidden in our religion to be a terrorist)

[Saif_Mahlik]

Hmm, so its kinda like thus muslim terrorists (terrorist, so actually they aren't muslims, its forbidden in our religion to be a terrorist)

They are worse then any "terrorist" organisations but they most certainly do have terrorist branches supporting them and carrying out there dirty work. They are like facists and Skinheads in a way with a superiority complex.

[Nask]

Hmm, so its kinda like thus muslim terrorists (terrorist, so actually they aren't muslims, its forbidden in our religion to be a terrorist)

They are worse then any "terrorist" organisations but they most certainly do have terrorist branches supporting them and carrying out there dirty work. They are like facists and Skinheads in a way with a superiority complex.

Hmm, i already understand it, the quran also mentions about this. Those people are jews(not all jews), they act like they're good people but secretly they are eliminating everyone? It's just an example... nvm, i already understand it



i guess i'll have to look for proof, to show you zionism and masonry has to do with each other.

[MagicManICT]

Freemasonry (as a cult) stems from Qabbalistic practices as written down in the book The Keys of Solomon. (I'm pulling this from memory, so don't shoot me if I'm off a bit, but I remember it when I was going through a bit of a thing with Wicca and some digging into Cabbalism.)

There's your connection