★R-18 ★ Prostitution Law

[borka]

hi pyrale - you should mention that you talk about France

Legalisation made it possible to have Ex -prostitutes opening their own brothels to overthrow a lot of that crap that was involved with illegality...

[TeckXKnight]

It's illegal in the US but a lot of the states in my area have been pushing to legalize it for two reasons. The first reason is to monetize it; as long as the sex trade is illegal then all transactions aren't taxed and the state sees none of that money. The second reason is to protect sex workers; if there are proper regulations and protections in place then prostitution will not be a hotbed for physical and drug abuse.

One of the biggest factors that is preventing anyone from successfully pushing this legislation through is that the public wants sex workers to be hurt and battered. Prostitutes are seen as degenerate and low, deserving of whatever punishment that their job puts them through. It feels like this is an old sentiment though and as the older generations are dying off, newer generations are more willing to accept these changes. There is also concern that if selling sex becomes legal then fidelity rates will drop.

Currently prostitutes are picked up by law enforcement and either kept for a few days under suspicion or are sentenced to do a bit of time. Inversely, law enforcement also arrests those trying to hire prostitutes. To my knowledge they tend to target the buyers more than the prostitutes.

[dagrimreefah]

You already know my stance on prostitution...

Your body is your PRIVATE PROPERTY BB.

[zmurrell]

Here in Chile the age of consent is 12! Just think about all the more options you have now! jk i live in US but central america does seem to have a VERY low age for consent.

[Flame]

Turn a crime into a Job and all those prostitute will have rights and protections.
Leave it as it is now and all those prostitute will be just slaves as they are now.

It's not a matter of moralism. It' just to have the courage to see the reality and fight it with the best choise for the slaves.
Being moralist is just a way to blabling and don't change nothing. Those poor woman will be forced, also if we moralize a lot.
So, honestly, is better give them a job, an associacion, rights, house where works, controls about theyr status etc. All what we have for right that they can't have.

[martenx]

Its allowed in The Netherlands.

[Tonkyhonk]

thanks all for your comments and sharing!

in the UK prostitution itself is not illegal, but various related activities are (including owning/managing a brothel). I would say prostitution is frowned upon, but strip clubs and things like that are widely accepted, even though in reality they are often essentially brothels where girls PAY the club for the privilege of "dancing" for customers [in private rooms...], for the possibility of a "tip".

ah, has it been always legal or was it legalized like NZ?

It was legalised in 2003, by the labour Government. They lost a lot of voters because of this, and many (stupid) women still won't forget about it. Labour lost the next election.

now, this is another interesting stuff coming from your post! so, "smart" women forgot about it? :p whats your implication there?

I live in the Church Reign. No it's not called Italy, i call it Church Reign, 'cuz everything a little different form what the church says, is automatically banned from Italy.

lol Berlusconi would beg to differ, right?

If people don't think it's bad, the woman will not feel it bad or "dirty, evil" and will not be gulty of anithing.
So, what woman thinks is what the people thinks.

actually, flame, i still think women would feel it bad or dirty somewhat for selling themselves for money. not because of churches or bibles or religions, but im pretty sure most of them would still feel guilty for their own virtues. but i see where youre coming from.

In a state that looks down on gays, deports/secretly kills mexicans, conservatively "tries" to keep drug use down and practically has no blacks whatsoever, you can imagine there aren't that many prostitutes in arizona...

oh cmon, arizona has got Amy's Baking Company and Alison Dubois! what more can you expect?

GI Joes in your country would be humping everything that moves (if they aren't already )

you can't have hookers without pimps, bitza. and everyone knows, pimps are always black males.

gif you still want to be a pimp you can work from home. it's the digital age

hookers without pimps usually turn into rape victims. can those new pimps at home swing their big e-peens hard enough to make customers pay?

I have no problem with the man's statement. If it's legal where they are then he is not saying anything wrong for his part of the world. Just because North Americans are politically correct faggots does not mean that he should be looked down upon and he very well might be correct in his statement. If soldiers go to women who are willing to provide them that service instead of raping others who do not then I cannot see how that would hurt.

Also, prostitution is illegal in Ontario

sad part is that things dont work as simple as he or you may expect. (and thats why i disagree personally.) the biggest issue behind there is that the industry itself is involved with too many illegal stuff and smeared with "grey zones".
anyways, so canada too has different laws state by state on prostitutions like america?

You can argue this point but the comfort women did not volunteer so each time they were used it was act of rape.

let me put it short for now, what japanese politicians are trying to say is that the system itself was not supposed to involve abductions and rapes, and such actions were not proven to be done by the state order. they have already apologized and been saying sorry about the horrible events actually happened but they cannot apologize to the way it has been accused of, unless its proven. like, just because some terrorists happened to be canadians, canada the country itself does not apologize for the terrorism events caused by canadians unless the canadian gov ordered them to, right?

If you want to work from the standpoint that it was necessary to get sexual relief for the soldiers, it still remains that the military could have found other ways of getting sexual services for the soldiers. They could have tried to recruit prostitutes either from people already in that field or people they offered to pay.

that is how the imperial army back then (was believed to have) meant doing. of course, nobody is naive enough to say it went well. of course many took advantage of the system and just went ahead with abductions and forcing girls from basically everywhere. maybe people knew what was happening and just closed their eyes and tried not to touch it. its just like how some countries prohibit prostitutions yet still been carried out everywhere.

Prostitution is legal here in Brazil and, if i'm not mistaken, there are projects from Prostitute Associations (nope, not a joke.) in some states that are teaching english to prostitutes so they can be well prepared for the FIFA world cup. YEAH. BRAZIL.

BR!BR! tell me more about it. can you recommend any good links?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Germany

Prostitution in Germany is legal, and so are brothels.[1] In 2002, the government changed the law in an effort to improve the legal situation of prostitutes. However, the social stigmatization of prostitutes persists and many prostitutes continue to lead a double life.[2] Authorities consider the common exploitation of women from Eastern Europe to be the main problem associated with the occupation.

so most prostitutes in germany are not originally german but immigrants after berlin wall down?

In germany it's called "the oldest bizness in the world"

i hear it everywhere! but who said prositution was the oldest profession anyways? was it a german guy? (someone told me it was prostitute, architect, and one more i forgot.)

Which essential point did he make ? I don't know what's actually the thing I despise most in his comment : that men can't behave even if they want to, that it is ok to treat women as a comodity or that a good war needs some sacrifices.

that men have very hard time holding their craving for sex in general.
if you have no problems behaving, hurray to you! but can you say all men can do that as you can?
as a female, i cannot tell what men think cause ive never been one. (thats why im asking here!)
the point is that we all know many men cannot fight against sex in normal situations (look at all those sex scandals) and we still expect male soldiers to fight it at war front. ive never been to a war myself either, but i can imagine it is an extraordinary situation when you take down one of the biggest morals - not kill another human or disrespect another life - to survive, while risking your own life, yet you still keep another moral up - not rape/hurt/disrespect women -. im hoping that most men are still keeping sane with lots of efforts (or without difficulty maybe) in such situation and still keep their honor, but im not sure if we should all blame those individuals who lost sanity at such situation. i cannot tell how id act if i were there and if i were a man. Korean people all knew how horrible japanese were to them, yet, their soldiers who are supposed to have learned about horrible crimes couldnt help themselves in vietnam.
when you look at history, we all know women had always been "loots" of the wars. lets stop being hypocrites who only go for idealism, its not just about men treating women like tools, but it can be about how humans are animals at unconcious level to be chained for reproduction. whether women get to choose or not, they originally look for "strong men" for their offsprings to survive longer and prosper. in civilization, women dont always have to look for "strong sperms" but get more various options. yet, they try to look for men who are less related blood-wise. (ever heard of sweat smelling experiments?)
btw, i think many women too sometimes treat men like tools both in history, and more lately.

Something that's being completely forgotten is that in an overwhelming majority of cases, prostitution is not a job you chose, and it's not a job you can leave easily, even if you are willing to.

it is true its hard to leave the job once you get into, but in japan, prostitution has become a job you get to choose. it may surprise you, but at least, as of late, forced prostitutions are minority afaik. (unless you happen to marry a pimp without knowing so.) i find it sad, but many young girls decide to work in sex industry for easy way out. a friend of mine had a perfect job after passing so many hard exams and she still quit her job and went into sex industry and said she fit better.
(i do know there are many forced prostitutions in the world, as there were in japan.)

But well, you seem to enjoy having political prostitutes that will give you anything for a couple voices rather than politician craving for a better society and future ; so why not real prostitutes aswell.

one thing, pyrale, you seem to think discussion is where you are supposed to find someone to offend, but its not making you look any good
fyi, i never voted for this guy or anyone in his party. and in general, politicians here all suck hard and crave for power anyways.

It's illegal in the US but a lot of the states in my area have been pushing to legalize it for two reasons. The first reason is to monetize it; as long as the sex trade is illegal then all transactions aren't taxed and the state sees none of that money. The second reason is to protect sex workers; if there are proper regulations and protections in place then prostitution will not be a hotbed for physical and drug abuse.

hey, thats interesting too. did you know that it has become "illegal" (well, oh um, you know) in japan because america insisted and pushed us so?

It' just to have the courage to see the reality and fight it with the best choise for the slaves.

ha ha, yeah thats what many men say here. but flame, ironically, another reality is that many women hate it too!
of course i wouldnt want my boyfriend or husband to "utilize" such industry!!!

[NaoWhut]

Anything for money, that's how the world works

Whores sell their bodies, governments let the
whores go at it and become whores themselves.
Government lets whores be whores so long as
they get a little bit of that glorious money that
people sell their soul for.

If they can tax it, it'll probably be legal one day...
until money doesn't exist anymore or we all kill
eachother trying to get more money. Why? Time's
money and no one wants to die, everyone wants
more time, so everyone wants more money.

Until immortality exists and money is banished,
people will be whores.



Just my unrelated two cents

[bitza]

money is a representation of resources, labor, and production. banishing money isn't going to help anything, people will still "whore" for whatever the money used to represent - food, gasoline, land, labor, protection and so forth.

Anything for money, that's how the world works

a good corollary to this might be "everything is for sale". has any form of government-mandated prohibition of "vices" ever actually worked?

Time's
money and no one wants to die, everyone wants
more time, so everyone wants more money.

time is money, but money is not necessarily time...it's easy to trade your time for money but it doesn't always exactly work out in the opposite direction

[NaoWhut]

money is a representation of resources, labor, and production. banishing money isn't going to help anything, people will still "whore" for whatever the money used to represent - food, gasoline, land, labor, protection and so forth.

Anything for money, that's how the world works

a good corollary to this might be "everything is for sale". has any form of government-mandated prohibition of "vices" ever actually worked?

Time's
money and no one wants to die, everyone wants
more time, so everyone wants more money.

time is money, but money is not necessarily time...it's easy to trade your time for money but it doesn't always exactly work out in the opposite direction

I spoke in metaphors, my apologies, i'll explain

imagine a world where there is no money and
you are given whatever you wish, you do not
have to whore for anything, you are immortal
and anything you could ask for is at the tips of
your fingers. That is a world where money is
no longer needed. This is a world that will one
day exist if we move on to a type 1 or type 2
civilization. If you need me to explain further
i could do so, but most likely in PM, i don't know
if it belongs here.

You can pay money to someone to do something
that you would instead have to spend time trying
to make/ do, the similarities between money and
time are great, while the soul difference is fact
that they are not the same thing. The people with
the most money can afford things that extend their
life span, and if you have money you can buy food
which will allow you to survive.