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Re: Petition from Russian Community. For Developers

Postby RJT » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:30 am

Masa wrote:This ****y new LP system was created because of your bots and now you're here complaining about not being the number 1?

Shh we've covered this already :D :P
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Re: Petition from Russian Community. For Developers

Postby iflamberg » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:33 am

This ****y new LP system was created because of your bots and now you're here complaining about not being the number 1?

Another lazy one have awaken. Please read all the topic. I CAN still be number 1. I want game mechanics to be changed so this bots would be needless.

Some players like me only want to have a village in peace and have fun with friends and do fun stuff like hunt animals, forage, and trade with neighbour villages, not worry that some bot will put an arrow or sword in my back everyday.

What's the point? You have village in peace and have fun with friends and hunt animals and so on and then some Pumpkinheads come and destroy everything you love. Do you like being humiliated? Or do you like stoop to beg powerful villages to protect you? That was the thing with AD and Russian community, by the way. Before w4 they always help everybody who ask for. Then they started to put price for their help. Transformed from peacekeepers to extortioners Very similar to USA, don't you find that? =) Oh, excuse me for that little trolling.
Let's also speak about trades with neighbor villages. Usually fun-villages have nothing to trade with power-villages. Power-villages have q70 metals, q100 fibres, q60 pumpkins, q200 bones and so on. They need nothing from their younger neighbors. They need only slaves that will cut trees, make bricks, make cupboards. Russian community even have mem: "brick slavery". Moreover, none of power-villages would ever-ever want to trade q70 pickaxe for example. And clay. High-quality clay become such precious that I was trading 40 q80 bricks for a bar of gold!
Is this logical? Are you ok with it?
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Re: Petition from Russian Community. For Developers

Postby RJT » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:43 am

Another lazy one have awaken. Please read all the topic. I CAN still be number 1. I want game mechanics to be changed so this bots would be needless.

The bot is pointless as is.
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Re: Petition from Russian Community. For Developers

Postby iflamberg » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:57 am

We will see if this true in a month.
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Re: Petition from Russian Community. For Developers

Postby burgingham » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:59 am

iflamberg wrote:What's the point? You have village in peace and have fun with friends and hunt animals and so on and then some Pumpkinheads come and destroy everything you love. Do you like being humiliated? Or do you like stoop to beg powerful villages to protect you?


Believe me, Pumpkinheads or the like are no problem for his village and that "village" he is coming from has plenty to trade for :)

Btw, you never were #1. You go ahead and write a curiosity bot. While it is farming curiosities for you, everyone else is going to get ahead of you so far it isn't even funny anmyore.
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Re: Petition from Russian Community. For Developers

Postby Saetia » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:18 am

Devs are your admins

Admins do what the hell they want if you don't like it fuck off who cares if they gave someone items or not
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Re: Petition from Russian Community. For Developers

Postby RJT » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:23 am

Obviously they care?
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Re: Petition from Russian Community. For Developers

Postby Garlicman » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:27 am

iflamberg wrote:What's the point? You have village in peace and have fun with friends and hunt animals and so on and then some Pumpkinheads come and destroy everything you love. Do you like being humiliated? Or do you like stoop to beg powerful villages to protect you? That was the thing with AD and Russian community, by the way. Before w4 they always help everybody who ask for. Then they started to put price for their help. Transformed from peacekeepers to extortioners Very similar to USA, don't you find that? =) Oh, excuse me for that little trolling.
Let's also speak about trades with neighbor villages. Usually fun-villages have nothing to trade with power-villages. Power-villages have q70 metals, q100 fibres, q60 pumpkins, q200 bones and so on. They need nothing from their younger neighbors. They need only slaves that will cut trees, make bricks, make cupboards. Russian community even have mem: "brick slavery". Moreover, none of power-villages would ever-ever want to trade q70 pickaxe for example. And clay. High-quality clay become such precious that I was trading 40 q80 bricks for a bar of gold!
Is this logical? Are you ok with it?


You are making this all Darwinian again. I've played in w2, w3 and w4, sometimes alone, sometimes with people, and there were no "destroy everything you love and humiliate you" raiders. Heck, in w2 we even built a mansion using ore that we got from a free mine. Yes, a village where you can join, mine and smelt all you need and return to your farm.

Speaking of trades and slaves, "brick slavery" is a russian meme, as you said yourself. In my village in w3, which we created after we got to the new regions and found metal, we bought bricks from some metal-less villages, but calling them slaves? No reason.

Also, have you seen Sodom's trade list? They bought a lot of stuff, pretty common too. And i don't see any problem with high-q clay actually. Game economy is purely player-driven, nobody sets the prices artifially, and that makes a lot of sense (and fun).
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Re: Petition from Russian Community. For Developers

Postby iflamberg » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:30 am

Btw, you never were #1.

Who was? May be you? May be Koya? We will newer know because we don't have any scale to measure and any table to put graph in. Should we measure character? Or village? Or fiber quality? Every village has tons of alts so we can't even precisely count number of people in any village.

Game economy is purely player-driven, nobody sets the prices artifially, and that makes a lot of sense (and fun).

Clay is recoverable resource. Gold spots are not. You get around 6-8 bars from every gold and silver spot, in case you don't know. So this is illogical to sell 40 clay pieces for 1 gold bar, but you can't get it another way 'cause all spots are claimed and protected very hard. And you can't craft better weapon and conquer that spots without that clay again. So in this brand new world I have to random-spawn like crazy (by the way abusing game mechanics) in search for spots, or I'm doomed. Well someone may be find it entertaining, but I'm not. I call this "bad game design".
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Re: Petition from Russian Community. For Developers

Postby Garlicman » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:36 am

iflamberg wrote:
Btw, you never were #1.

Who was? May be you? May be Koya? We will newer know because we don't have any scale to measure and any table to put graph in. Should we measure character? Or village? Or fiber quality? Every village has tons of alts so we can't even precisely count number of people in any village.


You'd like if there was such a scale?
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