The month of November

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Re: The month of November

Postby Igglebert » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:18 pm

sabinati wrote:
Taikand wrote:When did they fight for such things as freedom and liberty?


1776


Beat me to it :lol:
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Re: The month of November

Postby jorb » Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:10 pm

niltrias wrote:I have nothing but respect for US military veterans. BUT.

These days, our (I mean American) vets are not dying for freedom, liberty or even an ideology. They are dying because of wall street first, and W's "some guy shot at ma pah!" mentality second. I do not denigrate the troops in the least. But they should not be risking their lives for such crap reasons.


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Re: The month of November

Postby niltrias » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:13 am

Taikand wrote:
niltrias wrote:Alright, I am going to catch heat for this, I know. But still.
Advance apologies for the trolling, but it is really the way I feel.
I am a veteran, 2/4 of my parents children are veterans, over half my high-school male buddies are veterans. I come from a long line of veterans, at least 4 generations running. I have nothing but respect for US military veterans. BUT.

These days, our (I mean American) vets are not dying for freedom, liberty or even an ideology. They are dying because of wall street first, and W's "some guy shot at ma pah!" mentality second. I do not denigrate the troops in the least. But they should not be risking their lives for such crap reasons.

Flame on!

When did they fight for such things as freedom and liberty?And they are fighting for an ideology, the one with the underlined words.

Money and family are not ideology.
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Re: The month of November

Postby SpidersEverywhere » Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:37 pm

Hey, guys, all politics and ideology aside, I think we can all come together and agree that November 11th is MY BIRTHDAY and is therefore very much worth celebrating.
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Re: The month of November

Postby sabinati » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:16 pm

SpidersEverywhere wrote:Hey, guys, all politics and ideology aside, I think we can all come together and agree that November 11th is MY BIRTHDAY and is therefore very much worth celebrating.


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Re: The month of November

Postby Gauteamus » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:23 pm

Some guy predating u.a. the Maxim gun, the Great War, Armenian and Jewish genocides, the word genocide, Dresden and Hiroshima wrote:Der ewige Friede ist ein Traum, und nicht einmal ein schöner, und der Krieg ist ein Glied in Gottes Weltordnung. In ihm entfalten sich die edelsten Tugenden des Menschen, Mut und Entsagung, Pflichttreue und Opferwilligkeit mit Einsetzung des Lebens. Ohne den Krieg würde die Welt im Materialismus versumpfen.


out of context, Ayn Rand wrote:[...] Anyone, private citizens, who resort to force, is a monster. That is what makes me condemn and despise them.
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Re: The month of November

Postby Jackard » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:45 pm

SpidersEverywhere wrote:Hey, guys, all politics and ideology aside, I think we can all come together and agree that November 11th is MY BIRTHDAY and is therefore very much worth celebrating.

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Re: The month of November

Postby Jotun » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:23 pm

>great grandfather was serving in war
>grandfather was serving in war
>father was serving in war
>none of them loved/supported war, stationed due to obligatory militia recruiting due to protecting motherland + families
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