sabinati wrote:Taikand wrote:When did they fight for such things as freedom and liberty?
1776
Beat me to it

sabinati wrote:Taikand wrote:When did they fight for such things as freedom and liberty?
1776
niltrias wrote:I have nothing but respect for US military veterans. BUT.
These days, our (I mean American) vets are not dying for freedom, liberty or even an ideology. They are dying because of wall street first, and W's "some guy shot at ma pah!" mentality second. I do not denigrate the troops in the least. But they should not be risking their lives for such crap reasons.
Taikand wrote:niltrias wrote:Alright, I am going to catch heat for this, I know. But still.
Advance apologies for the trolling, but it is really the way I feel.
I am a veteran, 2/4 of my parents children are veterans, over half my high-school male buddies are veterans. I come from a long line of veterans, at least 4 generations running. I have nothing but respect for US military veterans. BUT.
These days, our (I mean American) vets are not dying for freedom, liberty or even an ideology. They are dying because of wall street first, and W's "some guy shot at ma pah!" mentality second. I do not denigrate the troops in the least. But they should not be risking their lives for such crap reasons.
Flame on!
When did they fight for such things as freedom and liberty?And they are fighting for an ideology, the one with the underlined words.
SpidersEverywhere wrote:Hey, guys, all politics and ideology aside, I think we can all come together and agree that November 11th is MY BIRTHDAY and is therefore very much worth celebrating.
Some guy predating u.a. the Maxim gun, the Great War, Armenian and Jewish genocides, the word genocide, Dresden and Hiroshima wrote:Der ewige Friede ist ein Traum, und nicht einmal ein schöner, und der Krieg ist ein Glied in Gottes Weltordnung. In ihm entfalten sich die edelsten Tugenden des Menschen, Mut und Entsagung, Pflichttreue und Opferwilligkeit mit Einsetzung des Lebens. Ohne den Krieg würde die Welt im Materialismus versumpfen.
out of context, Ayn Rand wrote:[...] Anyone, private citizens, who resort to force, is a monster. That is what makes me condemn and despise them.
SpidersEverywhere wrote:Hey, guys, all politics and ideology aside, I think we can all come together and agree that November 11th is MY BIRTHDAY and is therefore very much worth celebrating.
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