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Re: Not fun anymore

Postby burgingham » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:48 am

pordle wrote:Start harvesting blueberries to keep the cows fed.


Wait, what?
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Re: Not fun anymore

Postby Saif_Mahlik » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:24 am

I think its fine and dandy! Its an enjoyable game :D Died 2 times in one day and its still fun as hell!
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Re: Not fun anymore

Postby Moogie » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:25 am

pordle wrote:Farming is completely broken right now and there are barely 15 ppl talking about it. Oh but you half the LP of animal hunting and you get pages upon pages about the "injustice" of it all and right on the tail of their horrible sling treatment. BooHoo it's so hard on the hunters who gear for being attacked unlike the guy in a straw hat who is so strong when someone jumps them in a field. That btw is sarcasm. What would they be typing if hunting gave 1LP like these lvl 1 seeds we are getting?


Don't mind me, just digging out this important paragraph so that tl:dr people will see it. You're absolutely right there, and well said.
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Re: Not fun anymore

Postby Kochka » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:50 am

I just want to chime in and add my voice to the people complaining about the initial grind. I can't see any advantage for either the players or the game developers to having to grind useless tasks for real-life hours before you're able to get any useful skills and do anything that's actually fun. Why on earth is it designed that way, and what could possibly be harmed if new players started with a set of basic skills instead of having to dig sand for six hours to buy them? Select the most critical of the low-level skills for "fun" activities and give them to new characters, and in addition to it being more fun to start a new character (important when permadeath is a factor), you'll see a huge decrease in the amount of useless crap (buckets, baskets, etc.) hanging around the world contributing to the lag.
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Re: Not fun anymore

Postby DigDog » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:24 pm

Kochka wrote:I just want to chime in and add my voice to the people complaining about the initial grind. I can't see any advantage for either the players or the game developers to having to grind useless tasks for real-life hours before you're able to get any useful skills and do anything that's actually fun. Why on earth is it designed that way, and what could possibly be harmed if new players started with a set of basic skills instead of having to dig sand for six hours to buy them? Select the most critical of the low-level skills for "fun" activities and give them to new characters, and in addition to it being more fun to start a new character (important when permadeath is a factor), you'll see a huge decrease in the amount of useless crap (buckets, baskets, etc.) hanging around the world contributing to the lag.

No you won't. There will be always grinders, no matter what you do. The skills you need to get started are so hilariously cheap that you can get them after making a fire or two. For a new person who never played that game before it's perfectly fine. You'll start out making yourself some tools, then build a house and maybe go hunting, fishing, foraging, whatever. You'll rack up LP like nothing by just doing tasks that have a meaning, like building a house or two, making yourself armor, etc. I know because that's how I started in W3. I never had to grind.

For veteran players the situation is a bit different of course. They know what it takes to find a good place for a village and what they need to build and what they don't need to build. They skip the entire learning phase which is meant to provide LP for getting more skills. They don't bother catching rabbits, they want to go straight for bears. They don't bother building wooden houses, they want to go straight for mansions. They want to go and search for mines immediately. Etc, etc. And for that, of course, you'd need to grind to get the LP for the needed skills fast.
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Re: Not fun anymore

Postby Butko » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:41 pm

The game is fun...
What annoys me is:
lag,
server crashes all the time so I can't rly play,
griefers,
thieves,
other ppl,
russians,
koreans,
...
Everything else is fine. You can now get metal by yourself, just grind for one week, find some seeds start planting them, hope u get some flasx and wheat, build beehive and kill some animals, get some leather and voila u will have your own personal mine. Then you can do whatever you wish to do.
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Re: Not fun anymore

Postby DigDog » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:43 pm

Butko wrote:griefers,
thieves,
other ppl,
russians,
koreans,


You do realize that this game is MMO? As in "Massively Multiplayer Online"?
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Re: Not fun anymore

Postby Butko » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:47 pm

DigDog wrote:
Butko wrote:griefers,
thieves,
other ppl,
russians,
koreans,


You do realize that this game is MMO? As in "Massively Multiplayer Online"?

Yes I can still play on another realm where is no idiots around me... ?
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Re: Not fun anymore

Postby DigDog » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:50 pm

There will always be idiots because it's a game for humans.
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Re: Not fun anymore

Postby Butko » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:51 pm

DigDog wrote:There will always be idiots because it's a game for humans.

No I can play with my friends only without all idiots from all over the world...
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