Unfriendly people

[Shardok]

In response to the claims that you shouldn't converse with people... I've never had a bad experience greeting random strangers. Now, greeting people who are tracking a scent of mine? Yes. Greeting people that just broke down my walls or attacked me? Yes. But even those don't amount to a large amount of the people I've met.

The thing is, I've met tons of people when just out exploring and we say hello, have a little chat, maybe exchange locations, etc. If you ignore the people then you're not exactly playing a MMO... Of course, there are a few things to remember when you greet someone... A: Move around a lot if they have a sling or bow in hand, eventually they'll put it away if they are friendly. B: If they (OR YOU!) have a weapon other than a stone axe in hand, try to get it put away. If they refuse, well, I strongly suggest getting to a boat and conducting conversations from that. C: Remember to offer them a refreshing beverage! I usually try to offer some wine and cheeses to anyone I meet, they see it as free food, and it shows that I am not entirely weak in terms of strength. If you don't have wines or cheeses to offer, then just try to offer whatever you have (or offer wine and cheeses and ask them to come back to your village so you can get it. Very rarely do they accept that, so no cheeses or wine to giveaway, no problem).

Also, people are almost always more likely to converse friendly with you if you're both on boats, as there's a tad less risk. And if all else fails and they absolutely refuse to converse with you up close, ask if they'd be fine with talking in private chat a bit so you can exchange information.

The biggest reason I seek out people is to trade information more than anything else, it's usually free, and it can be very useful.

[Amanda44]

so..... pm sent but no response hmmmm i find this interesting.

I did reply but I also replied to the other 3 people...and was reading that great combat guide topic. I didnt know jack shit about how to attack or defend.. Now a little... I will start murdering ants and foxes now to practise..

Pretend it was ??? with his Peter Pan hat.

If you're going to practice, start with ants. Foxes are pretty mean if you don't keep your defense up.

I got chased all over someones pc in w5 after thinking i was strong enough to kill a fox, lol, i had to go back and leave runes to explain why there were so many tresspass scents - And the fox ate my shoes!

[min_the_fair]

Lol I didn't even know...

Well to be fair, I was pretty sure its origins were actually a typo, and while the form 'bagouser' looks like it should be a french verb, it doesn't actually seem to exist. But now it can! Fake etymology is fun!

[Undefined]

I recently started playing this world (Like 5-6 days ago) and have managed to clock up 3 deaths so far just from random people deciding to kill me. To be fair the first was deserved as I'd decided being a few months behind the best way to get started was raiding abandoned and destroyed villages with trespass and theft as early as possible which resulted in me being summarily summon killed. (After having my jury-rigged palisade knocked down.)
The next was while collecting some awesome Q30 clay and the third while building the very last cornerpost of a new palisade.
If I hadn't played previous worlds I'd probably have been put off the game pretty quick so I can see where this is coming from, world 6 does seem far harsher than previous and laying low until at least getting a palisade up is essential rather than recommended. Here's hoping I can finish the 3rd palisade before death 4.

[Zandar]

I recently started playing this world (Like 5-6 days ago) and have managed to clock up 3 deaths so far

Same here... same as Kortak.

I'm a mature skilled player, played all kind of RTS all the way back to Dune2 and games like inselkampf, tribal wars etc. I'm no carebear at all, love harcore and risk vs permadeath. But I don't feel like having any chance here as a newcomer unless I join a big existing city

Many more people will hear about Salem these weeks and months.
They will come to try H&H to see what to expect and then get killed multiple times the first week by people 500 times stronger than them, without any way to prevent it and quit the game.
You can say well we don't want bad players like that anyway. Indeed a proper noob won't even have a palisade in a week, while he's still learning. But he still could have become a great and fun player in a month given a little chance.

Since the dev's attention is elsewhere... maybe the only way to fix this is by politics/diplomacy. And the only ones who can set that up are the big faction leaders.
They could think about telling their gank squads to leave noobies alone maybe? Make some statement? Or organise a nooby protection bounty hunters thread?

I dunno but something needs to happen or Salem and H&H will lose a lot of potential gamers I fear.

[shotgunn902]

or you could play the role you should.

be smart and quit approaching people with weapons.

you wouldn't go up to someone with a handgun and gang type clothing and try make conversation.

[Zandar]

Welcome to the Hearthlands motherfucker.

ps: my guys killed you, im against it and called them dipshits for it but its your fault just as much, there are MANY things you can do as a newb, read the beginers guide sevenless wrote.

now that youre settled in nicely, i can offer you a safeisch place to learn, tomorow.

Hi, I'm the friendly boss of the people who killed you. I offer you protection. Join me or die again.

[Rugila]

The seven ( 7 ) Golden rules of H&H

1. DON'T talk to unknown people!
2. ALWAYS carry a weapon on your inventory!
3. NEVER anger any Russians or Polish!
4. REMEMBER to claim the area and wall it!
5. IF possible find a village, there's safer on group!
6. NO hunting, foraging etc. At night!
7. KEEP your spirit up lad, losing is fun!

[Zandar]

or you could play the role you should.

be smart and quit approaching people with weapons.

you wouldn't go up to someone with a handgun and gang type clothing and try make conversation.

Yeah and a guy a few replies before said the 100% opposite, that you should get proper gear asap to not look like a noob anymore.

Well tell me what to do. I'm a big noob playing only a few days. I've read much about the game so knew I should get a wall fast. I was working hard to get the resources and skills to get a pallisade. I've been 100% peaceful didn't steal/gank or whatever. I avoided people and when I couldn't I was friendly.

Then some nooby gank squad showed up.
I had a claim but they can just walk over it.
I was farming my carrots and got killed. I said hi, was wearing noob gear. I wasn't aggressive at all. Still got killed. Was there a single thing I could have done to prevent it the moment it happened?

[TheTylerLee]

The seven ( 7 ) Golden rules of H&H

1. DON'T talk to unknown people!
2. ALWAYS carry a weapon on your inventory!
3. NEVER anger any Russians or Polish!
4. REMEMBER to claim the area and wall it!
5. IF possible find a village, there's safer on group!
6. NO hunting, foraging etc. At night!
7. KEEP your spirit up lad, losing is fun!

why no hunting at night time?