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Postby jorb » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:25 pm

Jackard wrote:oh dont get me wrong i dont care for WoW that much but that doesnt make it a bad game


Not if grinding boring combat in a world where your actions are meaningless and nothing ever changes is your idea of fun.

WoW is a Blizzard product, and hence it is, in a sense, "good". For what it is, it is extremely bug-free, polished and beautiful. I do not wish to take anything away from the developers at Blizzard -- what mandate would I have -- but WoW is decidedly not my cup of tea. The reason I at one point had my hopes up was, I guess, because when I envisioned WoW in my mind, without having actually played it, it contained all the building elements that I loved about Warcraft II/Starcraft. Instead it was... MMO diablo with a Warcraft theme.
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Re: Game Expansion

Postby Purecasher » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:38 pm

Devour wrote:
Purecasher wrote:This is going of topic lol.

Anyway, It doesn't matter what you all think about Runescape, I couldn't even care less about what you think of WoW. The point is that this game would exactly remain as it is, and only adapted like how the creators would want it to be adapted. Its not because they'd work together with a company that made another MMO that this one will start to 'suck'.

Anyway I've given you some things to think about. Bear in mind that Mark Zückerberg & Andrew Gower never intended their site to be used on such a large schale... But it happened. I think it is worth considering.

The question remains though. Will Jagex find the game as good as I do?

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Well, considering Jagex started changing Runescape into a game for children, they probably won't, no.


No idea where you get your information but they are doing the opposite ;).

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Re: Game Expansion

Postby NaoWhut » Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:08 pm

oh? i stopped playing that game like
4 years ago because it's all 10 year
olds that rage at me for eating and
for killing them =P

Find one proud teenager/adult that
plays that game and i'll lol at them
for ya ;D
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Re: Game Expansion

Postby Lothaudus » Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:12 am

Purecasher wrote:The last game they helped publishing was War of Legends, the creators are a Chinese company. Jagex provided them with servers and translated the entire game to English. They also provided player support and a forum.

That's okay, Haven & Harth is already in English and has a forum.

Purecasher wrote:they will decide if the game is good enough to be published.

Thank God we have these people who can decide if Haven & Harth is "good enough" to be published. I for one am grateful such people exist to decide these things¹.

¹Given it's online already and we're playing it, if H&H is not "published" now, then what is it?
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Re:

Postby Chakravanti » Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:26 pm

Jackard wrote:o sorry i seem to have interrupted your smug pseudointellectual circlejerk about video games

you may proceed

I think you're over-interpreting what is just a series of, albiet unpopular, opinions. You're misrepresenting yourself as speaking for a minority by supporting wow. And while that may be the case here on this thread at least, the truth is much these opposite. WoW was an extremely popular game for a reason. Much like runescape. Every game has merits and flaws. What is so wrong with expressing our minority opinion that WoW is highly overrated and listing the things that make us feel that way because we'de like the devs to consider avoiding those aspects?

Personally, I've actually never played WoW and all I know of it is second hand descriptions. I played runescape for several months and the flaws I've listed are more from my experience in that. Namely, fetch quests, vendor trash from skill specific training and grossly repetitive actions. I"d say PvP there has all the same flaws it does here except that it's been policed down to meaninglessness because of RWT so those flaws are a lot less apparent (though no less highly debated amongst players).
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Re: Re:

Postby UnrealJake » Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:53 pm

Chakravanti wrote:
Jackard wrote:o sorry i seem to have interrupted your smug pseudointellectual circlejerk about video games

you may proceed

I think you're over-interpreting what is just a series of, albiet unpopular, opinions. You're misrepresenting yourself as speaking for a minority by supporting wow. And while that may be the case here on this thread at least, the truth is much these opposite. WoW was an extremely popular game for a reason. Much like runescape. Every game has merits and flaws. What is so wrong with expressing our minority opinion that WoW is highly overrated and listing the things that make us feel that way because we'de like the devs to consider avoiding those aspects?

Personally, I've actually never played WoW and all I know of it is second hand descriptions. I played runescape for several months and the flaws I've listed are more from my experience in that. Namely, fetch quests, vendor trash from skill specific training and grossly repetitive actions. I"d say PvP there has all the same flaws it does here except that it's been policed down to meaninglessness because of RWT so those flaws are a lot less apparent (though no less highly debated amongst players).


I've been on these forums for a total of five minutes because the server has crashed, and I Can already tell that Jackard isn't going to say sorry for mocking your opinion, by giving him your opinion. I doubt he cares at all about you liking WoW or not, he's really a troll, just a little smarter than the others with the capability of smart posts.

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Re: Re:

Postby Chakravanti » Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:43 pm

You speak as if you think my response was for his benefit. You are mistaken.
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Re: Game Expansion

Postby Purecasher » Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:49 pm

Lothaudus wrote:
Purecasher wrote:The last game they helped publishing was War of Legends, the creators are a Chinese company. Jagex provided them with servers and translated the entire game to English. They also provided player support and a forum.

That's okay, Haven & Harth is already in English and has a forum.

Purecasher wrote:they will decide if the game is good enough to be published.

Thank God we have these people who can decide if Haven & Harth is "good enough" to be published. I for one am grateful such people exist to decide these things¹.

¹Given it's online already and we're playing it, if H&H is not "published" now, then what is it?


You understand that Jagex would not publish any game... They have to make a selection of candidates. That's what I meant with deciding if it is good enough for them to be published.

I think you're smart enough to know what the difference is between a game being published for 300 people (which is the case, because the server is already lagging) and a game being published for 165million people (even more if there were more people playing it.

I know that this game is already English & that there is already a forum. I was just explaining what they have done for another game to give you a little insight in what they might be able to do. Of course their support is different for every game.

Bottom line, you can comment on the little things that I wrote in my post, which aren't even that important. Look at the bigger picture. Jagex would be able to help a great deal with this game. If you don't believe that, close the post, because then there's nothing to discuss.

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Re: Game Expansion

Postby UnrealJake » Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:50 pm

I often am mistaken, it comes with the territory.
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Re: Game Expansion

Postby Purecasher » Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:55 pm

NaoWhut wrote:oh? i stopped playing that game like
4 years ago because it's all 10 year
olds that rage at me for eating and
for killing them =P

Find one proud teenager/adult that
plays that game and i'll lol at them
for ya ;D


The game has evolved A LOT in 4 years. RuneScape is the #1 free multiplayer game now. That proves that the market is not only 10 year olds. Jagex' targetting age is 18-21 year olds. I personally have been playing RuneScape for 5 years and I know a lot of people that are 18+ even adults. There are not too many childeren playing this game as people who register with their age under 13year can't even talk in the game.

Jagex has built up a customer support service that is really involved with the community. They are monitoring the game way better, punishing unacceptable behaviour (like raging) is being dealt with in a better way. The Player moderator team has significantly increased as well.

maybe you should try to play RuneScape again before judging it. I'm sure you have changed a lot over the last 4 years ;).

Chakravanti wrote:I played runescape for several months and the flaws I've listed are more from my experience in that. Namely, fetch quests, vendor trash from skill specific training and grossly repetitive actions. I"d say PvP there has all the same flaws it does here except that it's been policed down to meaninglessness because of RWT so those flaws are a lot less apparent (though no less highly debated amongst players).


RuneScape might seem like a lot of repetitive behaviour although you are mistaken. Everyone can chose their own way of training skills, but there are so many alternatives. You have minigames that give you experience in certain skills. You have minigames that give you an item that double your experience while training certain skills. You have Distractions and Diversions that can give you experience in any skill you like (You can do these weekly).

I can't argue with your opinion on PvP though. I think Jagex have fixed it as good as they could, with eliminating RWT. I like it better before but they can't help it.

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