Rift, kaka

[StarChaser]

If someone does something massively douche'y in one character which gets him killed, please don't go on a man hunt for all his/her characters.

Unless you know it's JTG. All of his characters are griefer alts. Upon seeing me he starts swearing like a motherfucker.

I wasn't just refering to JTG.
Shockedfrog for example, a rather old example but still a good one. When he made a new character who hadn't done anything who tried to start a new in Camp Noctis, unknown to it's inhabitants that he was even there, some people from the bottleneck learnt of this and trash the place.
The server crashed shortly after and the damage was undone but that isn't the point.

No matter what, a character who hasn't done anything shouldn't be punished for something another of the players characters have done. Even current characters, someone who has a thief character and a normal character. Please don't punish the normal character because of the thief.

All of what I say is your choice to take into account and most of what I say isn't just directed at the person directly quoted.

~SC

EDIT: I only just re-read what you said sami and I realised I slightly misunderstood. But still in any case. If JTG finally decides to make a character that doesn't steal or abuse people and it isn't fueled by his thieves then that character shouldn't be punished.

[Raephire]

I agree. I wont be doing this anymore. I'm leaving things be. If they dont involve me directly, you can all go nuts.

[niltrias]

I wasn't just refering to JTG.
Shockedfrog for example, a rather old example but still a good one. When he made a new character who hadn't done anything who tried to start a new in Camp Noctis, unknown to it's inhabitants that he was even there, some people from the bottleneck learnt of this and trash the place.
The server crashed shortly after and the damage was undone but that isn't the point.

~SC

You know, I was one of the main people responsible for that, along with woose, and I keep hearing that the damage to camp noctis was repaired through server reset.
Look, the whole incident was stupid, and I was stupid to have a part in it. The raid stemmed not from SF, who I was on my way up to chat with at the time, but from a problem with Ferinax (sp?) and woose. Even then, I made sure that woose-affiliates kept their damage purely to Ferinaxs house, and not to general CN. We were there a good 5-10 minutes after the server reset. It was a bunch of yelling and looking for Berander, with whom I later that night had an entirely peaceable conversation. There was a cart driven off of Ferinaxs claim, and i dont know what became of it. I was only there for Berander. But this idea of a wholesale sack of CN, repaired only by a server crash, is BS. We did not damage the place, and we were there well after the crash. It was stupid, but the major damage that was implied never happened. The one CN resident who was online was repeatedly assured that he was in no physical danger.
This is making mountains out of molehills.

[StarChaser]

I wasn't just refering to JTG.
Shockedfrog for example, a rather old example but still a good one. When he made a new character who hadn't done anything who tried to start a new in Camp Noctis, unknown to it's inhabitants that he was even there, some people from the bottleneck learnt of this and trash the place.
The server crashed shortly after and the damage was undone but that isn't the point.

~SC

You know, I was one of the main people responsible for that, along with woose, and I keep hearing that the damage to camp noctis was repaired through server reset.
Look, the whole incident was stupid, and I was stupid to have a part in it. The raid stemmed not from SF, who I was on my way up to chat with at the time, but from a problem with Ferinax (sp?) and woose. Even then, I made sure that woose-affiliates kept their damage purely to Ferinaxs house, and not to general CN. We were there a good 5-10 minutes after the server reset. It was a bunch of yelling and looking for Berander, with whom I later that night had an entirely peaceable conversation. There was a cart driven off of Ferinaxs claim, and i dont know what became of it. I was only there for Berander. But this idea of a wholesale sack of CN, repaired only by a server crash, is BS. We did not damage the place, and we were there well after the crash. It was stupid, but the major damage that was implied never happened. The one CN resident who was online was repeatedly assured that he was in no physical danger.
This is making mountains out of molehills.

Well my apologies. I was only using the example I had been told, never was there myself. If the apple tree wasn't cut down, and other areas weren't ransacked then it isn't as bad as I thought. Once again, my humblest apologies. (There needs to be some sort of smiley bowing in respect... If there was one it would be here )

~SC

[sami1337]

If someone does something massively douche'y in one character which gets him killed, please don't go on a man hunt for all his/her characters.

Unless you know it's JTG. All of his characters are griefer alts. Upon seeing me he starts swearing like a motherfucker.

I wasn't just refering to JTG.
Shockedfrog for example, a rather old example but still a good one. When he made a new character who hadn't done anything who tried to start a new in Camp Noctis, unknown to it's inhabitants that he was even there, some people from the bottleneck learnt of this and trash the place.
The server crashed shortly after and the damage was undone but that isn't the point.

No matter what, a character who hasn't done anything shouldn't be punished for something another of the players characters have done. Even current characters, someone who has a thief character and a normal character. Please don't punish the normal character because of the thief.

All of what I say is your choice to take into account and most of what I say isn't just directed at the person directly quoted.

~SC

EDIT: I only just re-read what you said sami and I realised I slightly misunderstood. But still in any case. If JTG finally decides to make a character that doesn't steal or abuse people and it isn't fueled by his thieves then that character shouldn't be punished.

Well i support any griefer or thief to live their own happy life (granted they stop griefing). If someone starts a thief alt that doesn't use exploits to stay alive or grief, then i don't mind them either. It's happened before. Someone took our useless crap but i managed to open a pm with the person. I suspected JTG obviously, but turned out it was someone else's alt. After i was convinced it was not JTG (didn't take long as he didn't swear) i told him to never mind and continue whatever he was doing.

[eql]

jeeez.