The old king; Blaze

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Re: The old king; Blaze

Postby burgingham » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:24 am

It is really time for you to stop posting. You are either just provoking or have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You would have had to macro like 10 hours to get the lp you got for 30 minutes of hunting. Get your facts straight man, macroing is crappy lp compared to hunting or farming even now. Always interesting how people tend to fall for ridicoulous myths just because they don't have to think on their own then.
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Re: The old king; Blaze

Postby DatOneGuy » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:30 am

Atherman wrote:Oh so they patch the most popular form of macro abuse and all of a sudden all history of macroing vanishes? Every player who has LP in this game legitimately earned it when there are threads full of people admitting their macro addiction? I wasn't there consistently watching Blaze play his character to make sure he didn't cheat and neither where any of you. What I do know is that when cheating in a game can get you on top, 9 times out of 10 the person on top cheated.

And you'd be wrong, very.

Then again you're stupid enough to argue with a dev and a moderator over such matters.

You honestly think a cheater would get such a beautiful statue? P-shaw.


What he did especially if legit is pretty awesome, I mean those stats burg posted would take 55,641,000 LP if I calculated it all correctly...
If bears gave 21,600 LP that's 2,575 bears to kill. Impressive, I wonder how long that took.


I wonder if anyone is close to beating him yet :P
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Re: The old king; Blaze

Postby burgingham » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:34 am

Seems loftar got his facts wrong then. Klaue, hermedicus, warrri and me all had chars with between 25 and 35 million lp in world 2 (without macroing...). When I now take into account that jorb nerfed at least 5-7 million lp from me for the coal bug I had earned legitimately before (and from the others too) we were not so far away.
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Re: The old king; Blaze

Postby jorb » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:00 am

Atherman wrote:Oh so they patch the most popular form of macro abuse and all of a sudden all history of macroing vanishes? Every player who has LP in this game legitimately earned it when there are threads full of people admitting their macro addiction? I wasn't there consistently watching Blaze play his character to make sure he didn't cheat and neither where any of you. What I do know is that when cheating in a game can get you on top, 9 times out of 10 the person on top cheated.


lol nub.
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Re: The old king; Blaze

Postby Anomaly » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:31 am

jorb wrote:
Atherman wrote:Oh so they patch the most popular form of macro abuse and all of a sudden all history of macroing vanishes? Every player who has LP in this game legitimately earned it when there are threads full of people admitting their macro addiction? I wasn't there consistently watching Blaze play his character to make sure he didn't cheat and neither where any of you. What I do know is that when cheating in a game can get you on top, 9 times out of 10 the person on top cheated.


lol nub.


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Re: The old king; Blaze

Postby Sarge » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:49 am

Atherman wrote:Oh so they patch the most popular form of macro abuse and all of a sudden all history of macroing vanishes? Every player who has LP in this game legitimately earned it when there are threads full of people admitting their macro addiction? I wasn't there consistently watching Blaze play his character to make sure he didn't cheat and neither where any of you. What I do know is that when cheating in a game can get you on top, 9 times out of 10 the person on top cheated.


I hate macroing, but idiots even more.
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Re: The old king; Blaze

Postby Atherman » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:14 am

The only even semi-sentient counter-argument someone has made to my statements is Burg saying bears give faster LP than macroing. Stating that 'Because Loftar and Jorb support him means he didn't cheat' means nothing to me seeing how they've both suggested they support macro abuse and don't think it affects the game negatively at all. When older players have repeated that macro abuse is (was) a standard among top tier players, some of them in this very thread, I find it very hard to believe the top player 'Blaze' didn't use them or abuse them when the rest of the world was. I repeat, actively playing always results in quicker progress in most games but is worlds more difficult than running a program that can, with plenty of effortless afk time, produce the same results. If macroing was so useless, then why were so many people proud of their self feeding image recognition crap? Why not just spend ten minutes in the woods? Why did so many of you and other hearthlings rely on them?


And please attempt to come up with responses that at least mimic intelligent feedback.
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Re: The old king; Blaze

Postby burgingham » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:25 am

Atherman wrote: Stating that 'Because Loftar and Jorb support him means he didn't cheat' means nothing to me seeing how they've both suggested they support macro abuse and don't think it affects the game negatively at all.


Show me that statement. I know that they don't support macroing in any way. Why do you think they changed the mechanics for getting lp while building something? Jorb just said that he won't invest dev time into making macroing impossible or play some kind of police which looks out for suspicious behaviour. Because they want to have fun with this game too you know...

Blaze was a hardcore player, I assume he was playing 8 hours or something most days. With around 300k lp he could make by hunting in one hour he would have earned 2.4 million lp a day. A good macro makes between 12k and 18k lp an hour, lets say 15k. If he was running that macro for the other 16 hours of the day that would make 240k additional lp. So even if he did macro a lot only 10% of his 55 million lp came from macroing and he still has every hearthling beat lp wise, thus deserving to be the king.
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Re: The old king; Blaze

Postby Potjeh » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:40 am

Give it up, Burg, you'll sooner convince him that Moon landing wasn't faked, or that the world is indeed older than 6000 years.
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Re: The old king; Blaze

Postby Riou1231 » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:45 am

Atherman wrote:The only even semi-sentient counter-argument someone has made to my statements is Burg saying bears give faster LP than macroing. Stating that 'Because Loftar and Jorb support him means he didn't cheat' means nothing to me seeing how they've both suggested they support macro abuse and don't think it affects the game negatively at all. When older players have repeated that macro abuse is (was) a standard among top tier players, some of them in this very thread, I find it very hard to believe the top player 'Blaze' didn't use them or abuse them when the rest of the world was. I repeat, actively playing always results in quicker progress in most games but is worlds more difficult than running a program that can, with plenty of effortless afk time, produce the same results. If macroing was so useless, then why were so many people proud of their self feeding image recognition crap? Why not just spend ten minutes in the woods? Why did so many of you and other hearthlings rely on them?


And please attempt to come up with responses that at least mimic intelligent feedback.


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