A darkness rises

[TempestReborne]

Nothing short of my death is going to satisfy these people, and I'm okay with that. I don't know why they're being referred to as innocents when they have this "all for one, one for all" attitude about Goon affiliation. If a group of Goons attacks me, then I will attack a group of goons.

@ Vattic: I was pretty stoked that I could land a blow, I figured you were one of those Mordor rangers. Since I'm wanted for death there is no reason for me *not* to go nuts on whoever, sadly.

Goons are somewhat loyal to eachother, but they're not always working to the same ends.

You basically attacked a bunch of random people because they happened to be affiliated with a group that attacked you. You killed a bunch of noobs who had nothing to do with anything because they had just started.

You can pretend that your actions are defensible, but they aren't.

I'm glad you're getting hunted.

[sami1337]

Protect laketown if you dare

Can't, not online until late tonight, if at all. If you decide to take it out on us because you can't find Jon there's pretty much nothing any of us can do about it.

All I'm saying is it's not one of us who killed innocents up north, and there's plenty of evidence available to you to back that up.

Your leader kicked ALL of us out of our town -- I can't even go in now because it's claimed by BLANK, so it's basically unusable unless I wanted to get tresspassing, and then I'd need theft to move stuff to a new location or use anything. Or vandalism to build stuff, I suppose. Our leader was mean to you -- he's not even our leader anymore, but we've been attacked at two locations now with no promise of "okay we won't kill your newbies", and a promise from Jon that he'd come back and do it again and again because he has 100% tradition.

Just saying.

(And no, Jon smashing our stuff isn't because of Laketown. But Sami kicking us out of our town, um... kind of sucks.)

Yeah well, i am sorry to hear that. We didn't mean to kick you guys out. We even tried to find a replacement lawspeaker but failed to find one.
Plus, just turn on a macro for say 10 hours and you're there. It only costs 20k lp to become lawspeaker.

[Onionfighter]

Claims are inherited. If you cannot get onto the land, it is probably because JTG hasn't replaced the character he lost.

[Raephire]

I remember meeting Jon a while back (when I was working on the drying rack wall, so it must have been three weeks ago). He seemed like a decent guy. Perhaps he just got annoyed and took it way, way too far. I know Raephire is a decent guy too. I think he's getting annoyed, and may go a little too far also. There probably is a way to work this out through diplomacy and repayments, defense treaties and other reperations for the SA people. I don't know. It seems like everyone hated the goons a moment ago and now there has been a flip because someone found a new enemy and everyone was quick to take the same side. I think we may need to get over this public enemy mentality. Flipping out so often may not be healthy. I'll note that Jon was the vigilante before, and Raephire is now. Maybe Rift will be the next one. Then I suppose Blaze will have to be drawn in, and all of the powerful characters are suddenly killing each other.

I will probably be getting death threats for this. The typical "You're a friend of mass murderers!" Or "You're a friend of goons!" I think we need to go back to commerce and trade. Roads and villages. The dynamics of the game that every good hearthling loves. Stop feeding the griefers.

You are correct. Repayment to their attacked community is good, of course if they keep stealing we keep pulverising them