The Wiki Thread

[Erik_the_Blue]

Re: Dividing LP by LA:
This works. There'd be rounding error no greater than unity, but averaging over multiple trials would reduce that towards zero. Everyone is welcome to use techniques as sophisticated as they are comfortable with.

Re: Disambig Template:
WoWWiki seems to be doing some needlessly complicated stuff in order to document their disambiguation template. Was there any particular reason for copying their template and not just modifying the default wikia template?

Re: Domain:
I don't think there's a way to get another domain from wikia. Someone would have to acquire it elsewhere, and I'm not planning on doing that.

[g1real]

You'll have to register a domain yourself, and about the template, elaborate, there's a disambiguation template of some sorts already? o.O

[Erik_the_Blue]

Yes. Here is the templates category, and here is a list of all templates (and their documentation, if any) on our wiki. Wikia includes a number of useful default templates, including a disambiguation template. I will agree that the overview documentation (and the community portal in general) need improvement, however. The problem isn't that you created another disambig template, but that there was no easy way for you (or anyone else) to know that one already exists.

[g1real]

Now I'm confused

[Erik_the_Blue]

I think I see what you're trying to do with the tea leaves page now. Disambiguation pages are for separating things that are very different from one another. On the other hand, "tea leaves" is just a generic term for describing variations of something. In my opinion, the tea leaves page shouldn't be a disambiguation page, but instead a page that holds information common to all types of tea leaves, and links to the specific varieties. An even better option would be to post the information on a category page. I've been slowly working on something like this for the tree page and category, but I'm still not entirely clear on how SMW treats category pages and redirects.

Anyhow, continue what you're doing, but could you leave the stuff regarding trees alone? I'd like to compare our methods once they've been refined.

Also, if something is confusing you and you want advice or help, could you be more specific about what's troubling you? I really don't know what else to say when presented with a general comment like "Now I'm confused".

Edit: Also, if I'm not mistaken, it's not that green tea leaves produce black tea leaves, but that fresh ones produce green and black. The distinction should probably be made at what can be placed on the herbalist table. I could be wrong, but I don't have any green tea leaves at hand to put on a table.

[g1real]

Green tea turnn to black on a herbalist table afaik.

In any way, you could merge the "tree" page with the "category:tree" page with all the info, and make tree redirect to the category page, you keep info about the subject on 1 page.

Tea leaves on the other hand is not something that should be a category, as its an item, while you're right the disambiguation isn't that useful for it, it's me trying out templates and trying to figure it out - wikia has an more advanced edit system from wikis I'm used to, so it takes a while to get to it. That said, disambig is also for future planning.

I don't see any other templates that are a sort of disambiguation - WoWWiki keeps custom content they wrote themselves seperate from the default wikia categories for the sake of organization I think. Also, whats with double food templates and skill templates?

[Erik_the_Blue]

In any way, you could merge the "tree" page with the "category:tree" page with all the info, and make tree redirect to the category page, you keep info about the subject on 1 page.

Normally I'd agree, but the problem is in what SMW sees. I need to experiment more with this, but the consensus* at SMW wiki seems to be that sometimes redundancy is necessary. *Consensus being the couple messages in the mailing list I could find on the subject.

Tea leaves on the other hand is not something that should be a category, as its an item, while you're right the disambiguation isn't that useful for it, it's me trying out templates and trying to figure it out - wikia has an more advanced edit system from wikis I'm used to, so it takes a while to get to it. That said, disambig is also for future planning.

I'm thinking ahead to when different types of tea are differentiated from one another, at which point we will want some sort of categorization for it all. Since water will work similarly on the new map, it might be better to create a "drinks that restore stamina" category. Also, you can turn off the WYSIWYG editor from your user preferences.

I don't see any other templates that are a sort of disambiguation - WoWWiki keeps custom content they wrote themselves seperate from the default wikia categories for the sake of organization I think. Also, whats with double food templates and skill templates?

You overwrote the default disambig template, so there's still only one. WoWwiki isn't a good example of a wikia wiki because they started off elsewhere and later migrated to wikia, so they have some abnormal stuff by wikia standards. The double food and skill templates are so prototypes are kept separate from the working versions. They should probably be renamed to make that more clear, or moved to a subpage, but I'm considering it a very low priority since there are very few of us working on templates right now.

[g1real]

should I remove my disambig, ambox and stuff then?

[Erik_the_Blue]

No, those are fine. It's not like you changed the function of disambig, and ambox looks useful.

[g1real]

And what you said about the wysiwyg editor: It's disabled already, I saw it pop up once I think for no reason.

Some things we need:
A mob template.
Maybe an NPC template derived from that.
A wiki page on said mob with player aquired info like HHP and SHP?