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Re: Screenshot's of world 7

Postby Lord_of_War » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:42 am

ramones wrote:JC, u have so much space in those wide tunnels, why don't you just movement kill the troll? Its like 1hit for your char, and no dead alts at all.

The blood just looks nice probably
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Re: Screenshot's of world 7

Postby jordancoles » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:58 pm

ramones wrote:JC, u have so much space in those wide tunnels, why don't you just movement kill the troll? Its like 1hit for your char, and no dead alts at all.

The next one I'll try :)
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Re: Screenshot's of world 7

Postby ramones » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:44 am

I still wanted to 1v1 sling the L5 one to see how fast i can kill him with sling only (no alts, pure 1v1 sling action), unfortunatelly we had other things to deal with instead of finding more trolls. At least we've prooven to the world how easy alt-troll-kills are so everyone can do it if he got access to water and barter stand :)
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Re: Screenshot's of world 7

Postby NOOBY93 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:33 pm

ramones wrote:I still wanted to 1v1 sling the L5 one to see how fast i can kill him with sling only (no alts, pure 1v1 sling action), unfortunatelly we had other things to deal with instead of finding more trolls. At least we've prooven to the world how easy alt-troll-kills are so everyone can do it if he got access to water and barter stand :)

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Re: Screenshot's of world 7

Postby Arcanist » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:55 pm

Well since those are movement hits it could be done with 10 str and punch, though it would take a lot of time.
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Re: Screenshot's of world 7

Postby NOOBY93 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:10 pm

Arcanist wrote:Well since those are movement hits it could be done with 10 str and punch, though it would take a lot of time.

They aren't movement hits. They're opp knock then hit, but I doubt you can get a 0 defense hit against a troll so easily since you can't queue-follow it, since sprint speed.
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Re: Screenshot's of world 7

Postby Xcom » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:44 pm

Biggest issue with trolled is the speed. Any animal that can be dodged by any means can be outsmarted. Loftar should never have made animals have issues getting to there targets. Surface animals can be lured to water and trolls can be outrun. The fact that any animal cant follow you through instances as well i.e. into house or up the ladder it ruins any fair fight against animals. Instead of adding a stone move on the trolls he should simply made the trolls ignore all hitboxes except for players and given them 4th speed like bears. We tried to outrun a bear and found it was impossible.

It would have made a ton more sense if trolls would catch up to there target in mere seconds and killed them with proper melee combat then the stone move. If would also been nice if they could follow you through instances and even killed you inside your house or on the surface as well.

Thats the main issue with sandbox games. Its 100 times harder to make the pathfinder and navigation work then the actual fight itself. But it should I guess be a fair warning for haven 2. Focus on getting to the target then stand there looking nice twitching and waiting for that arrow / stone to blow hole through your face.
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Re: Screenshot's of world 7

Postby Dill » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:48 pm

Xcom wrote:Biggest issue with trolled is the speed. Any animal that can be dodged by any means can be outsmarted. Loftar should never have made animals have issues getting to there targets. Surface animals can be lured to water and trolls can be outrun. The fact that any animal cant follow you through instances as well i.e. into house or up the ladder it ruins any fair fight against animals. Instead of adding a stone move on the trolls he should simply made the trolls ignore all hitboxes except for players and given them 4th speed like bears. We tried to outrun a bear and found it was impossible.

It would have made a ton more sense if trolls would catch up to there target in mere seconds and killed them with proper melee combat then the stone move. If would also been nice if they could follow you through instances and even killed you inside your house or on the surface as well.

Thats the main issue with sandbox games. Its 100 times harder to make the pathfinder and navigation work then the actual fight itself. But it should I guess be a fair warning for haven 2. Focus on getting to the target then stand there looking nice twitching and waiting for that arrow / stone to blow hole through your face.


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Re: Screenshot's of world 7

Postby jordancoles » Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:01 am

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Re: Screenshot's of world 7

Postby ramones » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:47 am

NOOBY93 wrote:
ramones wrote:I still wanted to 1v1 sling the L5 one to see how fast i can kill him with sling only (no alts, pure 1v1 sling action), unfortunatelly we had other things to deal with instead of finding more trolls. At least we've prooven to the world how easy alt-troll-kills are so everyone can do it if he got access to water and barter stand :)

...And high end gear (weapons, thanes rings, etc.)


As Arcanist said, only difference with gear is that you can kill him faster. Its why I said 1min to JC, since he has good b12. If you equiped q10 soldier sword, you would just need to hit him 100x instead of 1-2x. This is marelly something to note down for everyone who meets the troll and has fear to get him down. Just have an alt prepared, lot of water and you're good to go. If you have 2 alts that can sting/valor him, than its even faster. And everyone who spawns one knows that if you block his "view of sight" he cannot reach you, meaning you have all the time in the world by having 1 alt near him so he does not despawn, to dig out an area of 30x30 to make the fight easy as possible.
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