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Re: Kim Jong-il died

Postby Tonkyhonk » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:38 pm

cauda_draconis wrote:On the other side, Pol Pot was quite westernized man, who lived and studied in France. That did not stopped him from killing about a quarter of country population, setting a record, i think.

By the way, about your predictions. I was quite interested in n. corea some time ago. There is the guy in russia (actually he lives is Seoul now), orientalist, north korea expert, i liked his blog on that topic. Among the other facts, he loved to state, that no one knows anything about north korea inner party politics, except, perhaps, few not very important little things. But since journalists should write anything on the topic, they start to fantasize and reasoning about inner politic, about sucessor, and come to conclusions, which no expert would agree, knowing how insignificant are facts on that topic.

my predictions? i dont believe i predicted anything... have i?

and we all know "westernization" is the source of the evil!
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Re: Kim Jong-il died

Postby psyknx » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:57 pm

Nooooooooooooooo!
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Re: Kim Jong-il died

Postby Swarm » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:10 pm

RIP.
>dat feel when he never fulfilled his dream of nuking America
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Re: Kim Jong-il died

Postby cauda_draconis » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:41 pm

Tonkyhonk wrote:my predictions? i dont believe i predicted anything... have i?

have you:
Tonkyhonk wrote:one thing we should keep in mind is that the current NK military wouldnt accept Jong-un as a "righteous" successor if he wasnt evil enough to try to continue what Jong-il had done, and to carry out Songun, aka, the "military-first" policy.

There is tarot divination, cofee ground divination, and also Party Leader Funeral divination. The last was very popular in ussr, i mean - when the former party leader dies, some guys, who pretended they are "understand the policy", started to predict who would be new party leader, calculating the configuration of party members going after the coffin. They say, it was quite funny even in ussr, and n. korea inner political life is hundred time more unpublic. So, such analyses make me feel quite funny.
Tonkyhonk wrote:and we all know "westernization" is the source of the evil!

As far as i remember, this thread started with "who is most westernized north korean guy", with the fantastic arguments about "HE PLAYS COMPUTER GAMES!!!1111".
So why do you speak ironically, like it was me, who started "westernization" theme?
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Re: Kim Jong-il died

Postby Tonkyhonk » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:09 pm

>.> i was about to go back to bed, but oh well, id better reply to this one before i do.
cauda_draconis wrote:
Tonkyhonk wrote:my predictions? i dont believe i predicted anything... have i?

have you:
Tonkyhonk wrote:one thing we should keep in mind is that the current NK military wouldnt accept Jong-un as a "righteous" successor if he wasnt evil enough to try to continue what Jong-il had done, and to carry out Songun, aka, the "military-first" policy.

There is tarot divination, cofee ground divination, and also Party Leader Funeral divination. The last was very popular in ussr, i mean - when the former party leader dies, some guys, who pretended they are "understand the policy", started to predict who would be new party leader, calculating the configuration of party members going after the coffin. They say, it was quite funny even in ussr, and n. korea inner political life is hundred time more unpublic. So, such analyses make me feel quite funny.

1) Jong-un being the successor is already reported by north korean official media.
2) their military first policy is also known as a fact and that is their propaganda advertised by themselves.
3) him being evil enough to continue what his father had done, is my assumption, not my prediction.
i dont understand which part is so funny to you.

Tonkyhonk wrote:and we all know "westernization" is the source of the evil!

As far as i remember, this thread started with "who is most westernized north korean guy", with the fantastic arguments about "HE PLAYS COMPUTER GAMES!!!1111".
So why do you speak ironically, like it was me, who started "westernization" theme?

this thread started with the link to bbc web page of the news, not about westernization. please look back at the op. i never said nor implied that it was you who brought that westernization topic <.<
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Re: Kim Jong-il died

Postby Potjeh » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:19 pm

I'd still like someone to read the marching order in the funeral procession to tell me how I will fare in my love-life.
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Re: Kim Jong-il died

Postby Robertzon » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:27 pm

it's funny becouse jorb is crying
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Re: Kim Jong-il died

Postby cauda_draconis » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:17 am

Tonkyhonk wrote:i dont understand which part is so funny to you.

The part, when you assume that you know something about nk policy.
For example, i could respond you: "wait, but there is some china-oriented faction there, and they are quite liberal, comparing to others, perhaps they have influence on the successor".
And then we will make some discussion about what faction is more faction faction.
And it would be like conversation about animal life in alpha centauri - very excited discussion with absolutely no connection to real life, since we have too little information to speak on that topic.

this thread started with the link to bbc web page of the news, not about westernization. please look back at the op.

same as op did not say any word about DNA.

Potjeh wrote:I'd still like someone to read the marching order in the funeral procession to tell me how I will fare in my love-life.

Hm... you know, for the funeral procession someone should die at first.
Kim did not goes in count, he is too far away from Croatia.
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Re: Kim Jong-il died

Postby Sardte » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:19 am

Will be interesting if his successor stays in power and if he does, what he's going to do with it.
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Re: Kim Jong-il died

Postby painhertz » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:25 am

"As far as i remember, this thread started with "who is most westernized north korean guy", with the fantastic arguments about "HE PLAYS COMPUTER GAMES!!!1111".
So why do you speak ironically, like it was me, who started "westernization" theme?"

Since you are stupid, and refuse to use reading comprehension, I'll point it out to you one more time. At no point did I say he is westernized because he's a gamer, I said he's westernized because he went to school in Switzerland. The gaming part is just something I read in an article about a year ago. In short, learn to read or don't post, bitch.
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