Chick-Fil-A: Society Gone Full Retard

[factnfiction101]

Did anyone see that ludicrous display last night?


I love chicken and I'm for gays getting married. I also think this is a distraction from the media, but I can't be bothered I have fish to catch. I hope to catch more sturgeon just cos they look cool.

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The Jungle

not to sideline this important debate (lol) but I really enjoy Upton Sinclair's work. its a little nostalgic, morally biased, and very dry at times but he makes some good points about anglo-american society. Also you have to remember most of his work coincides with the whole rise of mass media and yellow journalism thing (pulitzer, hearst, etc.) Have you ever read Oil! or the whole 'dead hand' series? I really liked Mammonart...

but to get on topic the owner or ceo or what-have-you of chick-fil-a is, like most people with oodles of money and free time, completely bat shit insane and behind the times.
is an outburst like this even surprising? I won't bother turning my nose up at it like it could ever happen in ones country, wherever it be (god forbid, evil actually happening in OUR precious society! D:) Just ignore it and it will go away.

p.s. chick-fil-a is fucking disgusting.

[Tonopah]

but to get on topic the owner or ceo or what-have-you of chick-fil-a is, like most people with oodles of money and free time, completely bat shit insane and behind the times.

You don't even know the man's name, his job description nor title but somehow arrive at the "most wealthy people are batshitcrazy" conclusion. We literally have the world [information] at our fingertips yet forum users happily repeat distortions and willfully misrepresent the opposition.

California voters rejected civil unions / Prop 8. Judge Walker of the ninth circuit court of appeals overturned the law.

The San Francisco Bay Area and LA Basin are very left wing, the coastal counties from the Oregon border to San Diego [nearly 1000 fucking miles] are dominated by leftist political ideology. The central valley is mostly center right, sans the greater Sacramento region. Orange County remains solidly right-wing conservative. San Diego is center right. SF Bay Area hardcore progressive left.

interactive map
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-20 ... .htmlstory


Green circles are centrist democrat party demographic counties that voted against gay unions. The people of Los Angeles rejected civil unions. Yes, L fucking A.

You know who got blamed for the failure of Prop 8? White Mormons and Black AME Methodist {obama supporters] . You know how many Mormons live in California? answer: not 5 fucking million votes. You know how many black AME Methodists live in California? Answer; not 4 fucking million votes. But blaming blacks and Mormons was, and remains, a politically expedient red herring. Center left JFK baby boomers and Chicano Catholics represent large voter blocs and both rejected gay marriage.

So what happens.. angry gay activists attacked old white ladies at churches, demagogued right-wing secular voters and published donor lists / home addresses of prop8 donors as a form of threat, intimidation and retaliation.

Summary.
LA helps drive American culture, nudges trends and fades into motion, earns billions of dollars in entertainment revenue and the majority of voting age residents are apparently batshitcrazy right-wing fascist gay-hating christo-tradionalists.

Yeah, that makes sense. Eff'n internet morons.

[Potjeh]

Summary.
LA helps drive American culture, nudges trends and fades into motion, earns billions of dollars in entertainment revenue and the majority of voting age residents are apparently batshitcrazy right-wing fascist gay-hating christo-tradionalists.

Yeah, that makes sense. Eff'n internet morons.

Actually, that makes a lot of sense. Better explanation for America being crazy than any I've heard before.

[ApocalypsePlease]

It's not special rights when a group is asking for the same rights as everyone else, this decision/vote really shouldn't be made by the people and should just be set in place.

Going to be sad having to look back on this in the future and how people have acted.

Also why the fuck is this guy's opinion given any special attention over everyone else's when he has no expertise/knowledge on the matter.

[dagrimreefah]

It's not special rights when a group is asking for the same rights as everyone else

They get the same rights as everyone else. WTF are you talking about? They can buy land. They can own a gun. They can protect their property and themselves. At least understand what the word "rights" means. Getting a state contracted religious ceremony (marriage) is not a fucking right. READ THE BILL OF RIGHTS as a reference guide PEOPLE..........

this decision/vote really shouldn't be made by the people and should just be set in place.

Tyranny. I thought you were all about rights?

Going to be sad having to look back on this in the future and how people have acted.

Yes when we look back and see we have made a protected class (used for political purposes) out of a sex fetish, then we see people emotionally demanding tyranny for it like you.

Also why the fuck is this guy's opinion given any special attention over everyone else's when he has no expertise/knowledge on the matter.

You have to have expertise to blindly follow rigid religious beliefs? Fuck, you have to be an expert to have an opinion? Wow, you and the rest of this full blown retarded society bitches and moans about 'the-poor-sex-fetish-practitioners' "rights"' (when they were never violated), but what about this tolerance I'm always hearing about? Such a great person, can sit around blabbing about fucking tolerance all day, but can't actually practice it when it comes to someone he finds distasteful...

What about "tolerance" for this dude's RELIGIOUS beliefs, even if you do find them preposterous? All the fucker said was he didn't agree with certain legislation based off of his religion. Seems pretty hypocritical of you and the rest of the herd.

[borka]

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charte ... ghts.html/
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charte ... 11-27.html

... good morning History ... August 26, 1920 ...
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charte ... nt_19.html

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1873anthony.asp
http://womenshistory.about.com/library/ ... tr_ps1.htm

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Words

look buddy, I'm no political scientist but didn't prop 8 fail by a 1% margin, or pass depending on who you ask?
Im not saying that the right to be gay has to be written into law like everything else in this country
(as if we elected our senators and representatives to tell us how to think and live! )
I'm talking about the ideas the united states were founded on. This is America (sorry for the pathos), the United States, Estados Unidos, whatever you want to call it. We have this thing back in history called the declaration of independence if i remember correctly? Isn't it supposed to garuntee me the opportunity and not the privilege to pursue life liberty and happiness (or property to some) and so forth?

What's the problem with gay people getting married? Does it lessen a heterosexual person's marriage? I sure hope not. Is it because poor, gay, wage-earning (some immigrants, shocking, I know) people are looking to save some money on their taxes and this upsets crazy rich people? Possibly. The fact that this vote did not pass is almost a sad memorial to this 'all men were created equal' business that was apparently forgotten by the average voter.The reason this kind of behavior is appalling because it is totally un-American. One of the ideas this country was freedom from persecution, be it religiously, sexually, racially, and monetarily in this century.

I don't even know why this is an issue! There are worse problems in America, we have a legislature that does nothing about major issues like health care and our military fiascos of the past decade. While the common people vote on something so fucking trivial and stupid and just... emotionally and psychologically immature? Are 51% of Californians really just a bunch of fat spoiled baby-men who will marry the first bitch that will offer to screw us? Is it okay to be gay? Do we really need to vote on this? Its the twenty-first fucking century.

but i guess it doesn't matter when you own like 1,000 fast-food restaurants. you can just yammer on about how great jesus is and how gay people steal your pets and eat babies, i don't know. And the kicker, people will listen! Meanwhile my poor ass is just yammering to entertain myself or repress the days awful memories and no one is listening

this is really a monetary issue like most things in america. if you have less people making babies who are you gonna get that sweet sweet income tax from?

p.s. are you homophobic?

[NaoWhut]

lol, the way you described it in the OP gave me
a mental image of a load of men in suits filling up
the store and eating chick fil a sandwiches with
angry faces, wolfing down the food and glaring
out the window as two men start french kissing
and dry humping eachother outside... the suit
guys watch, frown and buy 3 more sandwiches,
then eat them with crumbs going all over, flattening
out the wrappers so that the chick fil a logo is
up and showing... the couples outside pressing
eachother against the glass and reaching down
pants etc etc

I laughed pretty hard, but now wonder if i'm gonna
get some bull for nomming on the yummy waffle
fries and chicken nuggets... don't hate...

[dagrimreefah]

Im not saying that the right to be gay has to be written into law like everything else in this country

But it is. Its in the Bill of Rights.

We have this thing back in history called the declaration of independence if i remember correctly? Isn't it supposed to garuntee me the opportunity and not the privilege to pursue life liberty and happiness (or property to some) and so forth?

The Declaration of Independence was a list of grievances to King George III and us Declaring independence from Britain.
Its not law. Law is the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, and it says we have the RIGHT (not the privilege. privileges are given by some authority, rights you are born with)to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Meaning let me do my thing and leave me the fuck alone unless it infringes on your rights. And "pursuit of happiness" means the right to PURSUE HAPPINESS. It doesn't mean you have a right to be happy and if you're unhappy because of someone, they are infringing on your rights. It means you simply have a right to PURSUE HAPPINESS.

Is it because poor, gay, wage-earning (some immigrants, shocking, I know) people are looking to save some money on their taxes and this upsets crazy rich people? Possibly.

Yeah, nice over simplification there. You don't even know what the fuck you're talking about man. Why the fuck would poor people saving money on STATE taxes piss off rich people? Do you morons even realize that the contractual obligation THE STATE puts itself in via you getting married is delegated power to the state, and you can still get married on a local level? Do you realize that here in America, you can vote with your feet? WTF does it matter what your tax status is anyway if you just want to get married? Do any of you morons even fully grasp the intricacies of any of this? Or are you just regurgitating shit you heard on TV to make yourself feel morally superior? The superficial gibberish I hear being puked back up from main stream media then made use as arguments in these forums makes me want to puke myself.

The fact that this vote did not pass is almost a sad memorial to this 'all men were created equal' business

Again, vote with your feet. The economy is a powerful tool of the people. If everyone really finds it so socially appalling that enjoying certain sex fetishes (being gay) doesn't allow you to participate in particular state privileged tax cuts, the people will either: [A] vote out the incumbents or [B] take economic activity out of that state, thus reducing tax revenue.

The reason this kind of behavior is appalling because it is totally un-American.

Please. Your gross ignorance (along with a majority of the populations') of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights makes me ill. You obviously have NO idea about the principles this country was founded upon. A state has the express authority as delegated by the people to allow certain tax privileges to certain people. That's why we have different states in this union. Move to a state that does allow gay marriage, or boycott that state, or vote out the incumbents (don't want to sound like a broken record.) L2Constitution

One of the ideas this country was freedom from persecution, be it religiously, sexually, racially, and monetarily in this century.

Yes. Persecution FROM TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT. Not getting a fucking tax break isn't persecution. Fuck, we should all be striving not to pay any taxes at all.

I don't even know why this is an issue! There are worse problems in America, we have a legislature that does nothing about major issues like health care and our military fiascos of the past decade.

One thing I will kind of agree with you on, although I disagree about healthcare. The reason healthcare is so fucked now is precisely BECAUSE government has been far too involved in it for far too long.

While the common people vote on something so fucking trivial and stupid and just... emotionally and psychologically immature?

Another thing I agree with you on!

but i guess it doesn't matter when you own like 1,000 fast-food restaurants. you can just yammer on about how great jesus is and how gay people steal your pets and eat babies, i don't know. And the kicker, people will listen! Meanwhile my poor ass is just yammering to entertain myself or repress the days awful memories and no one is listening

Wah boo hoo fucking pussy. Ever consider some of these "evil rich people" worked hard for their wealth? Do you ever even take one fucking second to appreciate the services they offer to society? Nope, you're too busy ordering their french fries and crying about your inadequacies. Yeah, its so cool to blame my shortcomings on "evil rich people with 1000 restaurants" while I take advantage of all of their productivity like a fat spoiled child. Because you're the victim, right? Let me guess, the "man" been holding you down? Grow a fucking backbone.

this is really a monetary issue like most things in america.

Yes, but morons like basically all of society only know of pseudo-issues like this. They know nothing about our fiat currency and inflation, or the dangers of a central bank: issues that are truly at the center of our society's woes, and were even a central issue in the creation of this union of states.

p.s. are you homophobic?

Homophobic means "fear of the same". Only until the 60's was it popularized as a last ditch throe of desperation when a collectivist fag is inevitably losing his logical battle.

TL;DR: You have no clue about any of the principles that this country was founded upon. You cite the Declaration of Independence as if its law. Thus, your arguments have no credibility. You don't even know what fucking country you live in, and it is a shame you are allowed to vote on any matter.