A Letter To Jorbtar

[dagrimreefah]

Anyone who is playing just because they have everything set up is an idiot and way too attached to the game.

Just because someone doesn't want to lose hours/days/weeks of work (even if it is pixels) automatically means they are too attached? Seems the only idiot here is you....

I also recall you using the "griefing ppl is wrong because its hours of hard work, even if it is pixels" argument in the past. Don't make me search for quotes.

[Dill]

Anyone who is playing just because they have everything set up is an idiot and way too attached to the game.

How can anyone seriously force themselves through hours of lag and shitty mechanics everyday just to not loose a pixel city that nobody else is ever going to see since nobody else than said players is playing the game? That is just silly...

I've never understood why people make fun of people for getting attached to a game. Even more so with a game like this, People put a ton of time into this game. They don't want to see there stuff and this game go down in such a way as it is, Me included.

[joojoo1975]

I've never understood why people make fun of people for getting attached to a game. Even more so with a game like this, People put a ton of time into this game. They don't want to see
there stuff and this game go down in such a way as it is, Me included.

+1

[Patchouli_Knowledge]

The matter though is not being too attached to pixels but more of the fact that this game requires maintenance to upkeep your possessions structural wise and safety wise. Combine this with the constant periodic delays makes it rather trying to ones patience. Though I have not given up on Haven, I still am waiting on the outside as performing my tasks in my simple home requires roughly 2-3 times the amount of times than it should.

[burgingham]

As usual at least Patch gets it.

I don't want to diminish anyones investment into the game. It would be rather hypocritical since I once put a lot of time in it to maintain gigantic projects.

The problem is that you people are openly admitting that playing the game is torture, but nontheless you feel the need to log in everyday to maintain your status quo. Playing just for that sake is nonsense and yes then it is a form of attachment that is too much. This game is dead and the lag is a lot more horrible than even in world 1. Anyone still playing has a serious problem or a way too narrow horizon. There are other good games out there to entertain you at night. I promise!

[burgingham]

Being an idiot is just inherent in the system / Ein Idiot zu sein ist einfach nur systemimmanent

Not entirely sure how to take that comment. Which system? Life? This game? I probably agree though

[joojoo1975]

Anyone still playing has a serious problem or a way too narrow horizon. There are other good games out there to entertain you at night. I promise!

name 3 that will give me an H&H fix?

I wish there were other games out there like H&H. when i left last time(after i was raided and then died) i went to wurn, EQ2, all sorts of places. unfourtantly, nothing gave me that fix like H&H. first off there is the concept you start out with nothing but the clothes on your back and you can end up(in theory) owning the world. secondly, the quality formula in this game, keeps me chuggin on through all these bloody lag spikes. and finally, I guess i'm a junky still struggling to hold on to the thread of Hope that If W7 comes about, we'll have these glaring issues fixed and this game will be like it was in W3(or better as i basically started in W2(right b4 the boat patch))

So if you can name any games that can fulfill that "itch" pls illuminate me. cause i haven't found it.

[burgingham]

Well, that is basically what I mean though. You want me to name you 3 games with "some" certain mechanics. What you then describe however is HnH. No game is like the other that much.

I want people to not be attached to the particular design HnH has, but accept other kinds of games that are similar. I mean larpers could go for Terraria, Minecraft and its several mods or whatever. Number pushers can find a lot of other games anyway especially when they have some PvP component. In isometric RPGs I enjoyed Wakfu quite a bit, then they made bad decisions, but it seems by now they reverted a lot of those. You also get a bit of an environmental and political system to fool around with.

I think Jackard posted a number of sandbox rpgs in the other game thread here in the Inn. he is by far a better resource to contact on this than I am. I haven't exactly played a lot of MMOs in my life.

Personally I am playing Path of Exile right now, because it has just the most excellent dev team working on it I have met so far. Usually ARPGs aren't 100% my cup of tea, but this one is just great. Makes D3 look like a piece of shit...well ok, every game does that, but still.

[cobaltjones]

This was just too perfect not to steal (from SA):

Oh, they're great at creating fun games.

They're just that much better at utterly destroying them afterwards.

It's like a man who shits diamonds, but turns them back into shit when he touches them. And everyone's telling him to use pincers to grab them, but he doesn't believe in pincers.

[dagrimreefah]

Well, that is basically what I mean though. You want me to name you 3 games with "some" certain mechanics. What you then describe however is HnH. No game is like the other that much.

I want people to not be attached to the particular design HnH has, but accept other kinds of games that are similar. I mean larpers could go for Terraria, Minecraft and its several mods or whatever. Number pushers can find a lot of other games anyway especially when they have some PvP component. In isometric RPGs I enjoyed Wakfu quite a bit, then they made bad decisions, but it seems by now they reverted a lot of those. You also get a bit of an environmental and political system to fool around with.

I think Jackard posted a number of sandbox rpgs in the other game thread here in the Inn. he is by far a better resource to contact on this than I am. I haven't exactly played a lot of MMOs in my life.

Personally I am playing Path of Exile right now, because it has just the most excellent dev team working on it I have met so far. Usually ARPGs aren't 100% my cup of tea, but this one is just great. Makes D3 look like a piece of shit...well ok, every game does that, but still.

Trust me I have played just about every single type of rpg, mmo, or mmorpg there is to play. There is no other like HnH. Pure PvP, permadeath, no NPCs, extremely robust crafting... IMO this game is about the closest thing to DF Online that you're going to get right now.