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Re: jorb and loftar what is wrong with your country

Postby Amanda44 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:24 am

Seizure wrote:That does explain a few things...

Wasnt he the one who said something along the lines of "I know child porn is probably a bad thing..." when he was trying to get some cp posting fool unbanned? Fuck my memory.

Yep, that's the one.

Seizure wrote:Damnit now I feel like an idiot. I stand by my statement, an image is an image, and while the source of the image is shameful the image itself shows nothing bad. Its less offensive than mine, if taken at face value. I am ashamed of defending him though, simply because of who he is.

I get what you are saying with regard to the image and on the one hand I agree with you, however, on the other hand the connotations behind the image change it significantly for me.
If it was my forum, i'd go one step further than removing the avatar ..................

Seizure wrote:Edit: Forget my question about context on the picture Arcanist... Cannot unsee...

+1 :D
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Re: jorb and loftar what is wrong with your country

Postby Dzedajus » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:31 pm

For the love of [insert any deity here], can we stop already? It doesn't matter where my avatar is from, really. Do you always bitch and moan about every single thing that you see and feel it's inappropriate? You all are just using feelings instead of logic.
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Re: jorb and loftar what is wrong with your country

Postby Arcanist » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:07 pm

Amanda44 wrote:
Seizure wrote:Edit: Forget my question about context on the picture Arcanist... Cannot unsee...

+1 :D



Image


An image is just an image, to be honest I watched the first episode of Boku no Pico just now, and while it's not appropriate for younger viewers, there is nothing inapropriate about having an non pornographic image from it as your avatar.

It disgusts you? Grow the fuck up. There is nothing immoral, or wrong about homosexuality, and Boku no Pico highlights that rather well. If he had an avatar that was a female porn star, fully dressed then I doubt anyone would bat an eyelid. And even more than that, his avatar is CARTOON.
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Re: jorb and loftar what is wrong with your country

Postby Amanda44 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:17 pm

Arcanist wrote:
It disgusts you? Grow the fuck up. There is nothing immoral, or wrong about homosexuality,


Please don't try to insinuate that I think any such thing - i'm not discussing homosexuality, neither is anyone else, as i'm sure you're aware. :evil:
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Re: jorb and loftar what is wrong with your country

Postby Arcanist » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:35 pm

MagicManICT wrote: you know it's gay kiddie porn.


overtyped wrote:
Dzedajus wrote:Sweden cumfirmed 2 b best islamic country.

Your profile picture disgusts me. I know where it's from, and it's inappropriate for the forums.


That's what I got from these two posts.
How anime can be kiddie porn anyway is beyond me.
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Re: jorb and loftar what is wrong with your country

Postby brohammed » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:42 pm

Neither shota or loli count as images of child sexual abuse and it's a pretty dumb shit move to put them on the same level.
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Re: jorb and loftar what is wrong with your country

Postby Tonkyhonk » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:51 pm

lol you guys reminded me of an old news article.
The Book of the Later Han wrote:不入虎穴,不得虎子
One may not catch a tiger cub without entering a tiger's lair.
One may not catch a pedo without entering a pedo world!

it actually means "you have to venture/take risks to gain" =P
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Re: jorb and loftar what is wrong with your country

Postby Seizure » Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:11 pm

Legally, yes Lolicon and Shotacon are protected under the First Amendment (in the USA, naturally) so long as the scenes are not depictions of real events. This was not always the case, but eh... I think that is more a case of technicalities than the acceptability of the media itself. The fact that it can be argued that it is a form of expression, and lack of direct victims are thin excuses in my opinion. Escalation must be examined as a factor here.

... I hate how much I know about law sometimes.

Arcanist, I find it very interesting that you have a link to that. Care to share something with the class? :lol:
I gotta say though, they are extremely impressive with how convincing they are. If I hadnt seen the surprise myself, Id still be wondering if it was in fact a trap or not.
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Re: jorb and loftar what is wrong with your country

Postby MagicManICT » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:42 pm

I swear... I make a comment (jokingly or otherwise) about coles looking this up on Google and posting a shocked reply, and I'm dragged into your rants and "Quit hurting me and my paraphilia" anger? It's gay (transexual or transvestite better?), it's teens, it's porn (from my understanding... not into boys, so not going to bother watching). Whatever you might want to argue, shota and loli are sexual fantasies made by adults for adult audiences, usually containing some sort of pornographic act, be it "soft core" or "hard core". They are what they are by definition, not by specific shows. If a show doesn't fit that definition, then it should probably be classified as something else in the anime/manga sphere.

Seizure wrote:Legally, yes Lolicon and Shotacon are protected under the First Amendment (in the USA, naturally) so long as the scenes are not depictions of real events.


I'd want to see some sort of legal precedent for that as there was a guy arrested in my locale a year or two ago for holding a hard drive full of lolicon (full-on porn stuff). I don't recall him being accused of actually assaulting any minors or having any "live action" child porn. The local police had tracked him through torrents and chat and busted him for trading it or something along those lines. Yes, I'm in the US.
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Re: jorb and loftar what is wrong with your country

Postby sabinati » Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:37 pm

will y'all please shut the fuck up about that guys avatar we are trying to have a serious discussion about jerkin it in public here
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