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Re: The glorious US justice system prevails once again!

Postby overtyped » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:55 pm

Unostop wrote:A girl I dated hit another car head on. The other car held 2 passengers. A mother and young child. the mother was alright, but the child had spinal injurys. My girlfriend at the time was high on Xanax and almost died herself. She was 16 at the time. We were both in highschool. My gf was charged with first degree assault, but ended up with 10 years probation. We broke up shortly after all this and a couple years into the probation she broke it. They sent her to a 6 month rehab. Followed by a half-way house for women. She got out and it wasn't long after she broke it again. This time she went to prison. She wound up serving her time after all.
Just before the above happened my father left for work and was hit head on by a drunk driver. It killed my father, but the other guy walked away with a bloody nose. The drunk had numerous empty beer cans and a half smoked joint in his car and he tried to leave the scene. Being 16 at the time I do not remember what charges the guy faced. I do know that he never served a day for it. Tbh I can't even remember his name now. Maybe he is dead now, or changed and brought joy to someone. I'll never know.
Justice is hard to really come by. Things are not cut and dry now and you can never get back what was lost. This kid got a break. I feel very sorry for the families. I do not know the mindset of the kid, but I bet he wishes everyday that he could bring the 4 victims back.
As a proud American and a father of a child leaving for bootcamp in a couple months. I take offense at being referred to as "scum". Most countries do not see the good things about us. Only the negatives that their media picks up on. Do you believe everything you see, or read about? I do not bash Canada over a single crack smoking mayor?; nor do I bash any others over a single incident. Clean your own house before commenting on mine.


The kid caught a break? that's a good one. Did you not read the part about him driving 70 miles in a 40 zone while high and drunk, right before killing 4 people, putting another into a vegetative state?
Right after he crashed, he was seen running away from the scene, the only person he thought of was himself. You think someone like this deserves a break? scum.
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Re: The glorious US justice system prevails once again!

Postby Unostop » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:14 am

I never said he "deserved a break".lol I said he got one. I personally feel like he should've gotten time. I shared my personal experiences of similar incidents, because It shows that "justice" isn't always what you want it to be. It's to easy to say that every thief deserves to have a hand removed, or every murderer deserves death.
I wasn't in that courtroom and I didn't know this kid, or his family life. I have read the stories about him and from what I've seen he needed a harder sentence. But like I said I wasn't in the courtroom and I do not know what they heard.
Raging and dismissing a whole country as "scum" over something you can not and never will know the full story of.... I can take something away from your reply. You Sir are a Dumbass who should spend more time outside his walls instead of concerning yourself with thinking to much.
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Re: The glorious US justice system prevails once again!

Postby overtyped » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:31 am

Unostop wrote:I never said he "deserved a break".lol I said he got one. I personally feel like he should've gotten time. I shared my personal experiences of similar incidents, because It shows that "justice" isn't always what you want it to be. It's to easy to say that every thief deserves to have a hand removed, or every murderer deserves death.
I wasn't in that courtroom and I didn't know this kid, or his family life. I have read the stories about him and from what I've seen he needed a harder sentence. But like I said I wasn't in the courtroom and I do not know what they heard.
Raging and dismissing a whole country as "scum" over something you can not and never will know the full story of.... I can take something away from your reply. You Sir are a Dumbass who should spend more time outside his walls instead of concerning yourself with thinking to much.


This isn't about whether or not everyone in the world thinks your country is scum, which they do, but that isn't the point.
The thing that has everyone so outraged is the defense he used for slaughtering all those people. Here's the short version: They said he had a illness called affluenza, its not a real illness mind you, basically he thought he was so rich that he was immune from punishment, and considering most people aren't rich, it would piss a lot of people off. I don't really care about any of that though,I only really have a problem with his sentence, He walked out that courtroom a free man, even though his hands were stained with blood.
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Re: The glorious US justice system prevails once again!

Postby jordancoles » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:59 am

Unostop wrote:I do not bash Canada over a single crack smoking mayor?

We embrace him. The city is restricting his power so he's just a big retarded trainwreck that we all get to watch :mrgreen:
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Re: The glorious US justice system prevails once again!

Postby overtyped » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:13 am

jordancoles wrote:
Unostop wrote:I do not bash Canada over a single crack smoking mayor?

We embrace him. The city is restricting his power so he's just a big retarded trainwreck that we all get to watch :mrgreen:

Speaking of crack mayors, I wonder what jorbtars opinion is of the judges ruling.
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Re: The glorious US justice system prevails once again!

Postby Unostop » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:18 am

I know and I agree he deserved more. Has this world ever seen a time when the rich and affluent haven't gotten better treatment? It happens and the judicial system here isn't perfect. I don't see a future were a perfect system will ever be achieved. By the U.S, or any other country for that matter. The reason being, is that humans are involved.lol Their will always be dirty judges and politicians. Back-door deals and stuff. "Afluenza" may not be a real recognized disorder, but I see alot of evidence for it. Should it be an excuse?; fuck no. Not for what this kid did. Do you think all Americans think this is just the way it is? We don't.lol It is all over the news and people are outraged. It will be looked at and dealt with by those we voted into power. If not...then they leave in time and we TRY to do better. This country strives to do better and I know we are nowhere near being perfect.

The whole world, as you say, thinks we are scum? That is laughable. The majority of the worlds population would love to live here and have the freedoms we enjoy. I can see how a canadian may think that we should do better. Canada has a very low population in comparance and most of its in the bottom provinces. Our government has a lot more issues to deal with. We secure most of the world. We stand by our allies. For instance Japans problem with China. Instead of letting a huge country steal land from our smaller ally. We back our ally up and let the world know that we will use force if we have to. By flying planes into that area and saying we do not recognize your false claims. If Canada needed us we would sacrifice our sons and daughters to protect your freedoms and the same goes for the rest of our allies. We are not perfect, but we are not scum
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Re: The glorious US justice system prevails once again!

Postby overtyped » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:21 am

jordancoles wrote:Ethan Couch got probation after a psychologist testified he had "affluenza" — meaning he thought he was immune from punishment because he was rich.

Couch also faces two lawsuits from passengers from in his own truck. One seeks $20 million on behalf of a teen who was thrown from the truck during the crash and can no longer speak or move, and the other seeks unspecified damages on behalf of another teen passenger.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ethan-co ... ts-2013-12

What a little shithead lol

I bet his parents are super happy he's going away for 10 years and are more than willing to fit the bill. I doubt they've spent much time with him, or wanted to, anyways


I was just rereading what was written, and i thought i should clarify, he's going away to a vacation resort for 6 months not 10 years, he's basically going on a 6 month vacation to relax. After his 6 months of fun, he only has probation for 10 years, and when you are that rich, it's not like that's going to prevent him from doing anything, yay US justice.

If you don't know what probation means, basically once in a while cop will come by and visit him. Other than that, he can do whatever he wants, and is a free man.

Don't kill anyone in the US folks, because your penalty will be a vacation at a rehab resort for 6 months, where you get to ride horses, go to the beach, and have tv and computer privileges, oh what punishment that must be. That poor kid. All he did was murder 4 people, put another into a vegetative state and nearly kill another, why would he deserve this kind of horrible punishment, my heart really goes out to him.
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Re: The glorious US justice system prevails once again!

Postby Jackard » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:26 am

Unostop wrote:We are the yard stick that the rest of the world measures itself on. You can and probably will argue this, but it's true.

Temporarily. That empire seems to be fading.
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Re: The glorious US justice system prevails once again!

Postby MagicManICT » Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:35 am

I'd help hasten its demise if I thought it would do the world any good, but it'd likely just bring about something uglier than the last dark ages.
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Re: The glorious US justice system prevails once again!

Postby Unostop » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:38 pm

Jackard wrote:
Unostop wrote:We are the yard stick that the rest of the world measures itself on. You can and probably will argue this, but it's true.

Temporarily. That empire seems to be fading.

The wars of the past 12 years have hurt us. The cost of things like that are hard to get over. It may seem like "fading" to some, but it is just a temporary thing. Like a boxer who spends to much energy one round and slows the next to recover. The U.S is fine and will be for a long time to come.

MagicManICT wrote:I'd help hasten its demise if I thought it would do the world any good, but it'd likely just bring about something uglier than the last dark ages.

You are correct about the uglier than the last dark ages part. What other country is willing and has the power to stop an expansionist country like China? Ponder that
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