some conspiracy theory

[buttlord2]

stuff in reply to me

our bodies are leased out, as our awareness increases we can see what's going on and require mental strength to see what we let in when

you can choose to accept or reject your reality. but it will always be there, out in the open for you, or, supressed at the subconscious level. I did not mention in my post the kind of moves that thing performed but it doesn't matter, all i'm saying is that i saw a UFO, literally, something that flew, and i couldn't identify? simple

we could both look at the same entity and i could say i see an alien, you could say you see a figment of your imagination and everyone else could say they see a man and when they look at me or you they could say they see two schizophrenics.

haha but yeah humans do expect a foreign power to solve all their problems whether they be aliens, "god", the government, police, acquaintances, friends, you name it they want it. Nobody can solve your problems, any attempt will just make it into an even bigger problem because you do not have the neural connections ready that will enable you not to exacerbate the situation and make the problem re-manifest, later, even bigger than last time.

this wisdom which you may or may not have reached or maybe have reached beyond it, is why i would not want anyone to "help me" and again, i would help nobody unless i could see into what they wanted and make it so they themselves can see how to get there

also i believe your experience was very real. wasn't it real to you?

[Kathdys]

our bodies are leased out, as our awareness increases we can see what's going on and require mental strength to see what we let in when

Those leases must have some really permissive terms...

you can choose to accept or reject your reality. but it will always be there, out in the open for you, or, supressed at the subconscious level. I did not mention in my post the kind of moves that thing performed but it doesn't matter, all i'm saying is that i saw a UFO, literally, something that flew, and i couldn't identify? simple

Oh. It was probably a rubber chicken, then. It's hard to identify those while they're in flight.

we could both look at the same entity and i could say i see an alien, you could say you see a figment of your imagination and everyone else could say they see a man and when they look at me or you they could say they see two schizophrenics.

The scientific method exists to resolve such conundrums. If I have the hypothesis that it's a figment of my imagination, I can poke it with a stick to find out of its tangible (and poke you with the stick as my control.)

haha but yeah humans do expect a foreign power to solve all their problems whether they be aliens, "god", the government, police, acquaintances, friends, you name it they want it. Nobody can solve your problems, any attempt will just make it into an even bigger problem because you do not have the neural connections ready that will enable you not to exacerbate the situation and make the problem re-manifest, later, even bigger than last time.

People do solve my problems all the time. If I'm bored? Hundreds of new movies, books, and games have been released this year. If I have a medical condition? People have been working on the problem for centuries, and they even make major breakthroughs in my own lifetime. It's not bad to sit and wait for other people to solve your problems, so long as you still do something useful (and take care of yourself) in the meantime. I was just complaining about people who try to imagine that there are alternatives to anyone having to do the work at all.

Though I think your last sentence was just a really complicated way of saying that overprotectiveness inhibits personal growth. Hmm.

also i believe your experience was very real. wasn't it real to you?

Only partially, and the parts that seemed real were not as consistent as things that are actually real. It was like a waking dream, and dreams aren't real, no matter how real they seem to be at the time. This becomes obvious (to me, at least) upon waking and suddenly feeling and hearing two dozen times more information than I want to experience or know about.

Dreams are stripped-down so much that they don't even keep track of where your limbs are unless you're actually focused on them, or how you're maintaining your balance. The easiest way to tell that I'm awake and not dreaming is pain in my connective tissues. Dreams just don't bother with that kind of specifics. Of course, while dreaming, it's hard to notice these things.

I think only part of my brain was obsessed with the crazy stuff, while another part was quietly paying attention and keeping track of things even though it couldn't think. Eventually, I got a chance to sort things out. The 'wing pain' was just psychosomatic shoulder cramps, the 'regeneration' was just hallucinating that injuries were more severe at first than it actually was. The 'superstrength' actually was me lifting twice my bodyweight over my head... it was not good for my spine and I nearly got trapped, anyway. Touch-to-vision synesthesia was responsible for most of the hallucinations, and that followed a logical pattern.

I thought I could see in the dark, and I could--but I was only mapping the room based on sounds and my memories, and the maps weren't accurate, so they'd keep having to correct themselves when I bumped into things. Useless 'superpower'! It was like having the power to tie your shoes, so long as you tied your shoes just like a normal person. Same goes for all the auras. I mean, being able to see that you're in pain or that you're well-rested instead of being able to feel it? Cool, but not practical.

[buttlord2]

our bodies are leased out, as our awareness increases we can see what's going on and require mental strength to see what we let in when

Those leases must have some really permissive terms...

you can choose to accept or reject your reality. but it will always be there, out in the open for you, or, supressed at the subconscious level. I did not mention in my post the kind of moves that thing performed but it doesn't matter, all i'm saying is that i saw a UFO, literally, something that flew, and i couldn't identify? simple

Oh. It was probably a rubber chicken, then. It's hard to identify those while they're in flight.

we could both look at the same entity and i could say i see an alien, you could say you see a figment of your imagination and everyone else could say they see a man and when they look at me or you they could say they see two schizophrenics.

The scientific method exists to resolve such conundrums. If I have the hypothesis that it's a figment of my imagination, I can poke it with a stick to find out of its tangible (and poke you with the stick as my control.)

haha but yeah humans do expect a foreign power to solve all their problems whether they be aliens, "god", the government, police, acquaintances, friends, you name it they want it. Nobody can solve your problems, any attempt will just make it into an even bigger problem because you do not have the neural connections ready that will enable you not to exacerbate the situation and make the problem re-manifest, later, even bigger than last time.

People do solve my problems all the time. If I'm bored? Hundreds of new movies, books, and games have been released this year. If I have a medical condition? People have been working on the problem for centuries, and they even make major breakthroughs in my own lifetime. It's not bad to sit and wait for other people to solve your problems, so long as you still do something useful (and take care of yourself) in the meantime. I was just complaining about people who try to imagine that there are alternatives to anyone having to do the work at all.

Though I think your last sentence was just a really complicated way of saying that overprotectiveness inhibits personal growth. Hmm.

also i believe your experience was very real. wasn't it real to you?

Only partially, and the parts that seemed real were not as consistent as things that are actually real. It was like a waking dream, and dreams aren't real, no matter how real they seem to be at the time. This becomes obvious (to me, at least) upon waking and suddenly feeling and hearing two dozen times more information than I want to experience or know about.

Dreams are stripped-down so much that they don't even keep track of where your limbs are unless you're actually focused on them, or how you're maintaining your balance. The easiest way to tell that I'm awake and not dreaming is pain in my connective tissues. Dreams just don't bother with that kind of specifics. Of course, while dreaming, it's hard to notice these things.

I think only part of my brain was obsessed with the crazy stuff, while another part was quietly paying attention and keeping track of things even though it couldn't think. Eventually, I got a chance to sort things out. The 'wing pain' was just psychosomatic shoulder cramps, the 'regeneration' was just hallucinating that injuries were more severe at first than it actually was. The 'superstrength' actually was me lifting twice my bodyweight over my head... it was not good for my spine and I nearly got trapped, anyway. Touch-to-vision synesthesia was responsible for most of the hallucinations, and that followed a logical pattern.

I thought I could see in the dark, and I could--but I was only mapping the room based on sounds and my memories, and the maps weren't accurate, so they'd keep having to correct themselves when I bumped into things. Useless 'superpower'! It was like having the power to tie your shoes, so long as you tied your shoes just like a normal person. Same goes for all the auras. I mean, being able to see that you're in pain or that you're well-rested instead of being able to feel it? Cool, but not practical.

very nice justification glad you can also respect my views too and not think less of me!

[LadyV]

The world is what you make of it. It may be a simple statement but it is true. Are there conspiracy' out there? Probably so. Should we live our lives worried about them? No it would only make a very frightening world. Be you and shape the world you want to live in.

[buttlord2]

it's probably just archons messing with our minds anyway so we need to use our senses

[shubla]

hey guys,

i had a longer chat with a friend this night who told me some unbelievable stuff. in the end i endet up at the FBI Homepage reading some now open documents who prove something the majority of ppl would not believe (i do not mean UFO's ).

nevertheless one leads to another and i ended up watching this video:

A large number of ex high ranking officials including air traffic controllers, ex secret op. officers, commercial pilots, numerous military defense specialists with top secret clearance, people who had access to very sensitive documents
lieutenants, ex commanders in the u.s airforce,
astronauts,etc...
all going before the national press club to discuss what their experiences have been regarding u.f.o's and all are willing to go before congress to testify under oath.. never before has such a group come forward..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6 ... page#t=182

so what i want to know from you is: what is your reason to not believe this?

is it a set up? are all these ppl bought, actors or what ever?

greetings

Americans...

[MagicManICT]

It took over six months to fully recover from one week of that awful prescription, and I'm quite aware that none of it was real. (Are you saying I'm not real? No, shut up.)

Who's to say what is real and what isn't? It's big philosophical discussion. And coming from someone playing a video game, which is nothing but a mass, self-induced hallucination....

Seriously, though. I completely understand. Some drugs are good, some not so good but necessary, and others just need to be gotten rid of as they do more harm than good.

[Ninijutsu]

Who's to say what is real and what isn't?

The tele.