Scripts abusing in w7

[LadyV]

when the last few huge exploits/abuses came from the same town, sure, its clear nobody in the town finds it srs bzns or even care, its just fun.

That's not entirely true.

[jordancoles]

the recruitment villages you join kill you

that has never happened but thanks for being an example of why h&h community sucks

Interesting that you would say that because I was in that chat, and I was the one who stood by your hearthfire until you logged back in

[Xcom]

when the last few huge exploits/abuses came from the same town, sure, its clear nobody in the town finds it srs bzns or even care, its just fun.

That's not entirely true.

There is no point feeding this troll, its only here to stur up drama and generally drag the quality of this forum down.

A normal person would just sit on bugs and exploits and use them to there advantage.

Most others who aren't to active in this game on occasion report the bug without a care about advantage as they honestly don't care about it.

Then there are those that actively report bugs and get flamed for it.

The troll wants to stur up drama by advocating its a bad thing we report bugs. Or that we find them. Or maybe that we post about them? Not sure honestly what the troll wants to point to but its a failed attempt as long as we just ignore it.

[kret1337]

Why all the bashing on xcom? The guy is having fun doing his own thing who care if he bot... It's not like hes creating an army of bot to level your village. His gameplay should not be affecting yours. Also i don't remember seen people complain when he post quality formula and all the interesting thing hes testing.

Apoc lite
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=33805
Tree's quality formula
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34953&p=479043#p479043
Animal food infos
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=35664&p=471521#p471521
Q0 numen
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35237

And i saved the best for the end : GARBAGE DAY
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=36045&p=477077#p477077

This is only the tip of the iceberg of what xcom did for the game.

Stop trying to find flaws and try helping the community/game like he did.

P.S. Bot are not really gamebreaking you can have a trade thread and make more profit than any botter out there i can guarantee you. Everything i sold in my thread was done by hand with the exception of the wax cause no one do this manually.

[Eemerald]

when the last few huge exploits/abuses came from the same town, sure, its clear nobody in the town finds it srs bzns or even care, its just fun.

That's not entirely true.

it's all black and white it seems for some.

[Kaios]

Why all the bashing on xcom?

Listen, you fucking idiot. Don't make the thread about Xcom and nobody is going to bash him. Shut the fuck up with that useless post.

it's all black and white it seems for some.

Not for me, I see it more like everyone is sitting in a shade of grey somewhere. At this point in the game I doubt there is a single player who is completely innocent of utilizing/abusing any scripts/bots/exploits/etc. myself included. However, there are varying degrees of abuse and some people clearly act worse than others, that is a fact. I'm honestly not trying to play the blame game in this situation though.

Really, nobody has any concerns for the future? You're all content with how it is and anyone who says otherwise should go play another game because they aren't suited for this hardcore automated playstyle!!!! Yeah dude!!!!!!!! Come the fuck on. If you haven't noticed, things have been moving at a steady downward pace these past few years. What once was considered taboo is no longer and where exactly does it end? At what point do we say to ourselves, "Alright, I think this has gone far enough. I'm not even playing the game any more. I'm watching a show, a really boring show. Some little people run around for hours on end performing menial tasks."

I'm terribly confused and a little ashamed by some of the thought processes going on around here.

[kret1337]

Why all the bashing on xcom?

Listen, you fucking idiot. Don't make the thread about Xcom and nobody is going to bash him. Shut the fuck up with that useless post.

you sound mad

[Eemerald]

Why all the bashing on xcom?

Listen, you fucking idiot. Don't make the thread about Xcom and nobody is going to bash him. Shut the fuck up with that useless post.

it's all black and white it seems for some.

Not for me, I see it more like everyone is sitting in a shade of grey somewhere. At this point in the game I doubt there is a single player who is completely innocent of utilizing/abusing any scripts/bots/exploits/etc. myself included. However, there are varying degrees of abuse and some people clearly act worse than others, that is a fact. I'm honestly not trying to play the blame game in this situation though.

Really, nobody has any concerns for the future? You're all content with how it is and anyone who says otherwise should go play another game because they aren't suited for this hardcore automated playstyle!!!! Yeah dude!!!!!!!! Come the fuck on. If you haven't noticed, things have been moving at a steady downward pace these past few years. What once was considered taboo is no longer and where exactly does it end? At what point do we say to ourselves, "Alright, I think this has gone far enough. I'm not even playing the game any more. I'm watching a show, a really boring show. Some little people run around for hours on end performing menial tasks."

I'm terribly confused and a little ashamed by some of the thought processes going on around here.

firstly, that comment wasn't directed at you, you posts aren't black and white and show a degree of understanding of why botting happens, why it shouldn't and the inbetween. And I know this was scoffed at previously in a different series of threads on botting, but I don't bot, and we managed previous worlds without it as a town, and did fine. The issue is, that botting will continue because it's possible. I knew plenty of people who botted in previous worlds, most kept it hush cause it was a way for them to get ahead because not a lot of people were doing it, whereas now, you're the odd one out for not partaking in it. I can understand people's concerns but to me, if it exists within the game, and there isn't anything done to curb it by the devs then this isn't going to change.

Also there's a lot of ways to play this game without getting hardcore, Amanda for instance adores the game, and as much as I'd love for her to join EC, she's more comfortable and enjoys the game better being a hermit, accomplishing things on her own, etc, and many people are like that. Everyone has their pace, game style, value system driven by the game, it doesn't have to be competitive and hardcore, if people choose not to go down that route. but I do understand the issues around botting, and I'm not selling it as a perfect way to play, or the ideal position for this game to be in. But this has all be said before in many different threads, revolving around the same topic, and the only reason I responded to this one was because my town was bought into the discussion and I was asked to comment by a few people, otherwise, I'd not be here repeating the same things I've said numerous times before on the botting issues.

[Amanda44]

I typed this out earlier after Kaios replied to Kret - I didn't post it because I thought I might add to it and maybe refine it a bit, lol, but Em is right: -

there isn't anything done to curb it by the devs then this isn't going to change.

So here it is - unrefined, lol.

Tbh, we should all stfu, myself included - unless all the botters agree to stop using bots from this point in, which is never going to happen, nothing that is said changes anything. All these discussions ever end in is upset and tar and feathers. The only two people who have any control in any way at all over the use of bots is the devs, via game mechanics, punishments, w/e - arguing amongst ourselves is completely and utterly futile.

I've lost count of the number of times these threads have appeared since I've been here and from what I read it was no different before I came here - what have they achieved? Has botting stopped? Have the botters all run away in shame? Have we come up with a solution? On the contrary, from what you all say it's only gotten worse, so what is the point of anyone bashing anyone or coming up with idea's to combat it that are simply not viable or just ignored anyway.

These threads are nothing but an excuse to sound off at the botters, you can do that via pm - instead we have these huge long threads of everyone getting heated - myself included - and it's ridiculous when it alters nothing.

[Kaios]

firstly, that comment wasn't directed at you, you posts aren't black and white and show a degree of understanding of why botting happens, why it shouldn't and the inbetween.

I figured as much. The whole of my post wasn't directed just at you either to clarify, just a general response to all.

I can understand people's concerns but to me, if it exists within the game, and there isn't anything done to curb it by the devs then this isn't going to change.

I disagree. In my opinion, modifications made to the client are not something that truly exist within the game, whether or not the devs allow it. That is another reason why I'm so stubborn in relation to this topic.

I've lost count of the number of times these threads have appeared since I've been here and from what I read it was no different before I came here - what have they achieved? Has botting stopped? Have the botters all run away in shame? Have we come up with a solution? On the contrary, from what you all say it's only gotten worse, so what is the point of anyone bashing anyone or coming up with idea's to combat it that are simply not viable or just ignored anyway.

Um, how is that a reason to STOP discussion though, it sounds like the opposite... And I'll just say this, if Jorb or Loftar were to simply come and post something along the lines of "Hey you guys listen up, we are seriously considering solutions to all of these issues presented so far and there is no need to continue arguing with each other, thanks and love u all." I would just shut the fuck up already. That's all it takes really, a simple acknowledgement that my concerns have been heard and also to know I haven't been arguing for a lost cause would be nice.

If they say nothing, are we just to assume Haven 2 will end up the same? Open source client, rampant botting abuses, keylogging and account stealing, crashing clients. Customizable clients have made this game playable for the vast majority but they have also caused many issues at the same time.