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Re: Fix Tanning Tubs For F**ks Sake

Postby fallout » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:08 pm

MagicManICT wrote:
Arcanist wrote:So even 40 minutes is a long time to wait around to tan. This bug is kind of annoying, some people can only log in for a few minutes a day, and I don't want to be stuck on the same map as my house for 40 minutes.


See, that's the thing. You don't HAVE to be stuck waiting around there for 40 minutes. You just have to make sure that the map sector doesn't unload, which means porting back home every 20 minutes. (This has always seemed to work for me. Port home once about halfway gives the tub enough time to finish.) Of course, the simple solution is to make the leather when you're going to be at home, such as doing the cooking, farming, etc.

Yea you're right, you only have to be around the hides once every 20 minutes. However you are missing the point, it just doesnt matter with troll hides.
We made a bot that ran back and fourth for 100 hours ( reason it ran back and fourth instead of afking was due to a weird timeouts we've had) and this
got our hides to 50%, then the server crashed. Reseting the hides back to 4%, It would not matter if we went back every 20 minutes ( which is more work
btw) because the server would crash and reset the hides again. At this point we have accumulated so many hides we have started to make water skins out of them
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Re: Fix Tanning Tubs For F**ks Sake

Postby Tonkyhonk » Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:51 am

wanna change your thread title to "Dont restart the server and let only scripts play the game" then?

look, you were never interested in this enough to bring it up here before, cause you could still tan with scripts, right?
loftar has been trying to find out whats making the server swap like this and still cant with his limited time.
loads of people ask loftar to restart the server because people can hardly move with the lag when the server starts swapping, or it just crashes itself.
frankly, majority players being able to play seems to be more important than a small group of scripters tanning bunch of "supposed-to-be-rare yet accumulated" troll hides, unless fixing the tub is a real easy one that loftar can manage with a few simple clicks. ...or, maybe unless people consider not being able to tan troll hides to be too game-breaking beyond the current situation.
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Re: Fix Tanning Tubs For F**ks Sake

Postby cobaltjones » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:06 am

Tonkyhonk wrote:wanna change your thread title to "Dont restart the server and let only scripts play the game" then?

look, you were never interested in this enough to bring it up here before, cause you could still tan with scripts, right?
loftar has been trying to find out whats making the server swap like this and still cant with his limited time.
loads of people ask loftar to restart the server because people can hardly move with the lag when the server starts swapping, or it just crashes itself.
frankly, majority players being able to play seems to be more important than a small group of scripters tanning bunch of "supposed-to-be-rare yet accumulated" troll hides, unless fixing the tub is a real easy one that loftar can manage with a few simple clicks. ...or, maybe unless people consider not being able to tan troll hides to be too game-breaking beyond the current situation.

Literally nothing about this makes sense.

When you're 90% done drying a rabbit fur and the server crashes, it doesn't automatically reset itself to 0. It stays at 90%. Why would you possibly think that the tanning tub fix isn't something incredibly simple?

You act like the problem isn't with the ridiculously broken method that which tanning tubs work and somehow more that the server crashes sometimes.
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Re: Fix Tanning Tubs For F**ks Sake

Postby Tonkyhonk » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:12 am

cobaltjones wrote:Why would you possibly think that the tanning tub fix isn't something incredibly simple?

didnt i mention that with "unless"?
anyways, if you believe it to be incredibly simple, why hasnt it been fixed all this time?

cobaltjones wrote:You act like the problem isn't with the ridiculously broken method that which tanning tubs work and somehow more that the server crashes sometimes.

isnt that what fallout is saying above?
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Re: Fix Tanning Tubs For F**ks Sake

Postby cobaltjones » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:14 am

Because loftar is a lazy piece of shit and likes to fix problems by implementing other problems. I thought we already established this years ago...
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Re: Fix Tanning Tubs For F**ks Sake

Postby MagicManICT » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:58 am

fallout wrote:
MagicManICT wrote:
Arcanist wrote:So even 40 minutes is a long time to wait around to tan. This bug is kind of annoying, some people can only log in for a few minutes a day, and I don't want to be stuck on the same map as my house for 40 minutes.


See, that's the thing. You don't HAVE to be stuck waiting around there for 40 minutes. You just have to make sure that the map sector doesn't unload, which means porting back home every 20 minutes. (This has always seemed to work for me. Port home once about halfway gives the tub enough time to finish.) Of course, the simple solution is to make the leather when you're going to be at home, such as doing the cooking, farming, etc.

Yea you're right, you only have to be around the hides once every 20 minutes. However you are missing the point, it just doesnt matter with troll hides.


Yes, I realize the issue with troll hides. That's why I directed that particular remark at the poster I quoted. Seems like I already made the point that I agree with you. But asking for this to get fixed is like asking for getting teeth pulled without anesthesia. It just ain't gonna happen.
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Re: Fix Tanning Tubs For F**ks Sake

Postby Dwaneloki » Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:44 am

you only solution i can think of for your troll tanning problem (without bots) is living in or near a relativly active villagge or tightnit comunity with people from differnt time zones :idea: also this might be considerd a seperate glitch from the normal tanning glitch but thats only a gess meaning that if anyone dose choose to fix this bug the origanal tanning glich may or may not remain intact :)
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Re: Fix Tanning Tubs For F**ks Sake

Postby Dwaneloki » Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:48 am

cobaltjones wrote:Because loftar is a lazy piece of shit and likes to fix problems by implementing other problems.


thats debateable although you may be half right just leaving his own game still in its alfa (now that i think of it jorb's work reminds me of notch and his minecraft (as far as inavation goes)

edit: although i'm sure they've been compared before
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Re: Fix Tanning Tubs For F**ks Sake

Postby jordancoles » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:27 pm

Dwaneloki wrote:you only solution i can think of for your troll tanning problem (without bots) is living in or near a relativly active villagge or tightnit comunity with people from differnt time zones :idea: also this might be considerd a seperate glitch from the normal tanning glitch but thats only a gess meaning that if anyone dose choose to fix this bug the origanal tanning glich may or may not remain intact :)

Ty for your input Waffles :)
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Re: Fix Tanning Tubs For F**ks Sake

Postby jordancoles » Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:27 pm

Dwaneloki wrote:you only solution i can think of for your troll tanning problem (without bots) is living in or near a relativly active villagge or tightnit comunity with people from differnt time zones :idea: also this might be considerd a seperate glitch from the normal tanning glitch but thats only a gess meaning that if anyone dose choose to fix this bug the origanal tanning glich may or may not remain intact :)

Ty for your input Waffles :)
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