Chick-Fil-A: Society Gone Full Retard

[jesi]

Dagrimreefah wrote "Homophobic means "fear of the same". "

No, it doesn't. That might be a literal translation from ancient Greek, but that is not what the word means today.

Definition of HOMOPHOBIA
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals
—ho·mo·phobe noun
—ho·mo·pho·bic adjective

http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/homophobia

[min_the_fair]

Law is the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, and it says we have the RIGHT ... to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Meaning let me do my thing and leave me the fuck alone unless it infringes on your rights.

This foreigner is confused. Perhaps you can clarify for me, in what way does it infringe your rights to let two people (who are not you, who you do not want to marry yourself) get married?

... you can still get married on a local level

Can you clarify for me what you mean by this? Are you referring to a difference in state vs federal law? (something we don't have in my country so I'm not sure how the distinctions work).

[Tonopah]

Actually, that makes a lot of sense. Better explanation for America being crazy than any I've heard before

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LA is a dynamic, schizophrenic, strange yet seemingly ordinary pacific rim melting pot. Koreans and Chinese and Russians and Tongans and Japanese and Kiwis and Chileans all mashed together in the LA basin. Millions and millions and millions and millions of people from very dissimilar cultures and all you can do is try to piss me off with glib condescension?

Okay!

[dagrimreefah]

Dagrimreefah wrote "Homophobic means "fear of the same". "

No, it doesn't. That might be a literal translation from ancient Greek, but that is not what the word means today.

Definition of HOMOPHOBIA
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals
—ho·mo·phobe noun
—ho·mo·pho·bic adjective

http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/homophobia

Actually yes it does. If you want to follow the original etymology of the origins of the word, then just like you said, its Greek derivation implicitly implies it means fear of the same.

But let me guess, since Webster's says it doesn't mean that anymore, then it doesn't.
Fine, let us not use the etymological structure of language anymore. Let us just make up new definitions to words. Just as long as we cite Merriam Websters.... Fucking tool...

EDIT: I guess by your stupid ass logic, the word homogenous means "gay all over", just as long as Merriam Webster says so.

EDIT2: Just can't let this idiot go. LEt us break the fucking words down, shall we, tool?
Homo=same
Sexual=sexual orientation

That is the reason why the term "homo" has been popularized, because of the word "homosexual". Now:

Homo=Same
Phobia=Fear

Doesn't matter what a fucking dictionary company says. The goddamned etymology of the word is right there, retard. See? need more?:

Homo=Same
Geneous=All

Etymology. Look it up, cretin.

This foreigner is confused. Perhaps you can clarify for me, in what way does it infringe your rights to let two people (who are not you, who you do not want to marry yourself) get married?

That is my point. It is not against my rights, or anyones' rights if 2 gay people want to marry. But what is marriage?

Marriage is a religious ceremony practiced as a symbolic representation of 2 individuals coming together and forming a "jointly life pact" if you will. But it is just that. A religious ceremony. It may not even be religious. However, it is still just a ceremony.

Now the state says "ok, we collect taxes because you folks allow us to, so we can operate. For married people, we will consider your taxes jointly owed and thus you will get certain benefits."

Some states will say "we don't want to allow that discount/tax cut/state-contacted marriage to be on our books. Sometimes it is because of the heavily religious constituency. Sometimes it is simply because the state (and the rest of the taxpayers, no one ever hears their voice though) can't afford it. There are multitudes of reasons. But that doesn't mean you still can't get married. As I said, marriage is a religious ceremony. No one is stopping gay people from practicing that religious ceremony. It is only that certain states don't allow your marriage to fit into a tax bracket.

I'm not making my point clear enough...

When you pay taxes in the first place, you are delegating your rights away to the state. You are willfully handing money to an agency for promises of services or protection or arbitration later. The state saying "ok we will discount your taxes but not yours" is NOT an infringement of rights....

Can you clarify for me what you mean by this? Are you referring to a difference in state vs federal law? (something we don't have in my country so I'm not sure how the distinctions work).

Yes, I am referring to differences in state vs federal. In a free society envisioned by the framers of my country, the power is first and foremost held in every individual (government to yourself). Then we can delegate some power to our local town government. Then delegate to the county gov't. Then the state gov't. Finally, to the federal gov't. The federal gov't was supposed to have very defined and rigid powers and us people have complete control over our own lives. But it has since turned a complete 180 degrees and now people clammer for the federal government to control all of us for the sake of some people who practice a fetish to get a tax break.

TL;DR: When you get taxed, you are giving your rights away to the government for the promises the state gives you. Them not giving you a discount because of whatever reason is not them infringing on anyones' rights. Them showing up at a gay marriage religious ceremony with guns and forcing everyone to disperse is a violation of rights.

[jesi]

To Dagrimreefah - Boy I sure hope you're just trolling.

[dagrimreefah]

To Dagrimreefah - Boy I sure hope you're just trolling.

No I'm not. Like I said, go actually read some books about etymology and the history of where our languages came from or how they came about instead of randomly popping in here and linking to a fucking dictionary thinking that is some sort of argument. I also urge that you actually provide some valid arguments about the other shit I'm talking about rather than some asinine response about word definitions.

EDIT: And when I speak of gay people "getting a tax break", I fail to mention another service of the government that they still have access to in other ways: namely civil arbitration. Just to make myself clear. Being denied the privilege of particular types of civil arbitration (but not being denied civil arbitration all together(namely, divorce court)) is NOT a violation of rights.

[Potjeh]

You know you're in too deep when you argument devolves into semantics.

[dagrimreefah]

You know you're in too deep when you argument devolves into semantics.

Alas, I've ranted long enough.

[questionmark]

Im just saying this whole gay/christian/zoroastrian bashing thing is in bad taste. Fuck the police.
Also LA isnt a melting pot. Its an insane patchwork with very distinct boundaries which few dare to cross. Ill stick to SF but fuck cities in general. Theres better places in california to experience new cultures or whatever the hell youre looking for.

[Tonkyhonk]

Also LA isnt a melting pot. Its an insane patchwork with very distinct boundaries which few dare to cross.

my social study textbook back in my student days said it was never a melting pot, but rather 'a bowl of salad' instead"