The glorious US justice system prevails once again!

[Jackard]

The wars of the past 12 years have hurt us. The cost of things like that are hard to get over. It may seem like "fading" to some, but it is just a temporary thing. Like a boxer who spends to much energy one round and slows the next to recover. The U.S is fine and will be for a long time to come.

That's certainly optimistic but these consequences are the result of more than just twelve years.

[jordancoles]

I'd help hasten its demise if I thought it would do the world any good, but it'd likely just bring about something uglier than the last dark ages.

You are correct about the uglier than the last dark ages part. What other country is willing and has the power to stop an expansionist country like China? Ponder that

Canada if you give us your bombs, guns, vehicles and then shut the fuck up for about 2 seconds hue

[Unostop]

The wars of the past 12 years have hurt us. The cost of things like that are hard to get over. It may seem like "fading" to some, but it is just a temporary thing. Like a boxer who spends to much energy one round and slows the next to recover. The U.S is fine and will be for a long time to come.

That's certainly optimistic but these consequences are the result of more than just twelve years.

Yes. After the industrial explosion and WW2. The country became a glutton and used resources as if they were everlasting. Now with the environmental issues and the once mighty resources (like coal) now frowned upon and in shorter supply. We have to find a way to change. We will stumble sometimes and make wrong choices, but we will carry on. A lot of the military choices are debatable. Whether or not we should still have bases in Europe being one. Tbh Obama is way more lenient than his predecessors. Bush would've had us in Syria by now.lol With the war weariness and economy troubles. Americans are questioning whether or not we should police the rest of the world. Some isolationists would love for us to just take care of ourselves and let the rest fend for themselves. That will not happen. We wont retreat from the world and every person who values freedom and democracy should be thankful for it.

[painhertz]

This entire thread makes me much sicker than that idiot judges ruling. He deserves to be disbarred and no better but OP's calling our entire country "scum" because of said ruling predisposes that all Americans AGREE with such a ruling. In reality the majority of us think it's nothing short of a tragedy and happily await the relatives of the victims hopefully catching the little shit one day and putting a .45 round through the back of his skull. In short? OP needs to work on either his critical thinking skills, or shut his whore mouth until he knows how to form a valid sentence.

[Tonkyhonk]

For instance Japans problem with China. Instead of letting a huge country steal land from our smaller ally. We back our ally up and let the world know that we will use force if we have to. By flying planes into that area and saying we do not recognize your false claims.

i must say its really "american" of you to believe in this so easily.

[painhertz]

For instance Japans problem with China. Instead of letting a huge country steal land from our smaller ally. We back our ally up and let the world know that we will use force if we have to. By flying planes into that area and saying we do not recognize your false claims.

i must say its really "american" of you to believe in this so easily.

Maybe you lack faith in your own country.......

[Tonkyhonk]

Maybe you lack faith in your own country.......

i lack faith in most major governments on earth
also, you prolly dont know how many times american gov has let us down.

[painhertz]

Maybe you lack faith in your own country.......

i lack faith in most major governments on earth
also, you prolly dont know how many times american gov has let us down.

You are correct, I have "no" knowledge of any such letdowns and have always thought that we were the staunchest of allies after rebuilding. Care to enlighten me? I'm not saying you're wrong, I am seriously agreeing that I know of no such letdowns. in my personal opinion (And many of my friends in the military agree) WW3 will be fought within the next 20 or so years between the United States/Japan/Indonesia and other Asian states versus China with Russia either sitting it out or maybe do some light fighting on the Chinese western frontier.

[Unostop]

Maybe you lack faith in your own country.......

i lack faith in most major governments on earth
also, you prolly dont know how many times american gov has let us down.

I hope you aren't referring to the rape convictions of soldiers stationed at those bases. I will never defend rape in any form, but to blame a government would be folly.
I know a lot of Japanese would like us to leave. I know that Abe is building the military so you can protect yourselves. Coming from a war criminal family such as his it would be hard not to question his motives. I do not know enough about the man to say one way or another. Asia is a powder keg. With bias and hatred as old as any middle eastern countries. I'm sure China still holds a grudge over the rape of nanking. I'm sure the Japanese fume during the Hiroshima and Nagasaki memorial dates. If it's "American" to believe that despite everything our country would defend yours? Then listen closely and you may hear me singing this next part. I'm proud to be an American. Where at least I know I'm free and I wont forget the men who died to give that right to me. etc. etc.

P.S We have strayed from the op quite a bit. xoxoxo S.W.A.K. hehe

[Tonkyhonk]

have always thought that we were the staunchest of allies after rebuilding.

there was such a time majority of us thought so in the past too.
im pretty sure *most* of the soldiers at the bottom end are working hard with such an honor and respectful ideals, though.

anyways, all of you are trying to work out to not let ww3 happen and that is what we actually always really appreciate. and the existence of america as an "ally" has been a decent stopper so far. but the fact that america seems to believe in this stopping power lasts forever worries us a lot.

p.s.
id rather not discuss too much on this here to avoid unnecessary mess. if you really want to talk about it, talk to me in person.

I hope you aren't referring to the rape convictions of soldiers stationed at those bases.

lol no.

war criminal
Nanking

histories are written by the winners, never the losers.