For or against feminism(Plus exclusive Flame comic)

[Flame]

I don't think that being a woman means "go and have childs!".
We are enough human to keep this a free decisional thing, Lof. XD

[loftar]

If that's what you got from my post, then you misread it entirely.

[Kaios]

I don't think that being a woman means "go and have childs!".
We are enough human to keep this a free decisional thing, Lof. XD

You sure about that, Flame? Once a month I see another girl usually between 20 and 30 years old announcing their pregnancy or posting photos of their ugly new-born child. I'm not entirely sure what happened considering all the people preaching safe sex at us in our teen years but it looks to me they've been entirely disregarded and babies are just popping out of vaginas faster than you can say "no! don't! not yet!! pull out!!!!"

[Flame]

If that's what you got from my post, then you misread it entirely.

No, it was a sidenote ;3

Once a month I see another girl usually between 20 and 30 years old announcing their pregnancy

That's because is quite common for females to have babyes, for many reasons. Some of them are free decision. Some ar not.
Speaking of this, male should have the right to stay at home and grow the baby, as well, imho. Expecially when the female have a job.
But this is a lot out of the standard male-female roles. Sadly, a female that have a job is quite out of the classic role and is a mess to grow a baby with a job, but the "standard role" haven't changed for the law.

[Kaios]

That's because is quite common for females to have babyes, for many reasons. Some of them are free decision. Some ar not.
Speaking of this, male should have the right to stay at home and grow the baby, as well, imho. Expecially when the female have a job.
But this is a lot out of the standard male-female roles. Sadly, a female that have a job is quite out of the classic role and is a mess to grow a baby with a job, but the "standard role" haven't changed for the law.

Here's the kicker though...

I really truly doubt that in many cases, in fact almost never, does a 20-30 year old woman of our generation willingly decide, "Hey, I think it's about time to have a baby. I mean, I'm still going through college or university, I have tuition and bills to pay and I'm not nearly doing as well financially as I should be in order to support a family. I think I'll have a kid!"

No, I think more often than not there is no decision making involved in regards to actually having a child. The decision making comes in earlier and usually through the result of poor judgment, a child is born. A male and a female both make a conscious decision to not use protection, or the woman uses the pill so the man doesn't need a condom but I think we all know by now that is only half the battle. We've been educated better than this but still it happens.

Don't misunderstand me however, the male plays an equal role in this process and of course can also be just as ill-equipped to handle the situation as a woman could be, perhaps even more-so.

[Tonkyhonk]

to me, the ability to bare child(ren) is a valuable privilege for most women. men cannot no matter how they wish, neither can some women. i kinda find it strange that no men actually complain that this is unfair

and i sincerely hope those young girls, who are shouting for their own *rights* to choose not to bare one for whatever the reason they currently have, do not regret their decision later on, when they cannot physically enjoy the gift they once had any more.

my anime recommendation on this topic; "bunny drop"

[Potjeh]

Well, we can still get the best bits of having children, like playing with them and teaching them stuff, without the bad sides like lugging it around in our bellies for 9 months or going through painful childbirth, so I don't see why we'd complain.

[Tonkyhonk]

Well, we can still get the best bits of having children, like playing with them and teaching them stuff, without the bad sides like lugging it around in our bellies for 9 months or going through painful childbirth, so I don't see why we'd complain.

in other words, you can never figure out what youre missing. fortunately ...or maybe unfortunately, men can only pretend to experience the obvious bad sides to feel sympathy or whatsoeva.

[Potjeh]

The glass is half full if you ask me.

[Tonkyhonk]

the point is not your answer, but that of those who complain about gender differences, which does not necessary mean those who ask for *equality* see it half empty.

also, be aware that equal opportunity and equal outcome are different. i take it that loftar (and many employers too hopefully) gives equal opportunities, but the outcome may not be considered equal by feminists and they may feel it unfair.
just saying.