What did you hate in Salem you dont want in H&H ?

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Re: What did you hate in Salem you dont want in H&H ?

Postby loftar » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:45 pm

simimi wrote:I heard you will modify the river system, I quite like it like its now : separate river systems, it promote the local life, the "know your neigbours", building trust.

What river systems is it that you refer to as good? Haven's or Salem's? Right now, I think the rivers in the new mapgen will probably be somewhere in between those two with regards to isolation, though individual rivers might (hopefully) be longer than in current Haven.
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Re: What did you hate in Salem you dont want in H&H ?

Postby simimi » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:49 pm

Was talking of H&H, nice to be on boat and say hello to peoples you got to know, not freightening strangers, exchanging gossips about knew peoples you saw in the neigbourhoood.
Make a gradation like : my home -> my village -> my neigbours ( river system) -> the unknown.
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Re: What did you hate in Salem you dont want in H&H ?

Postby Gauteamus » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:51 pm

I liked the removal of the personality(?) sliders.
(compare EUII to EU IV :)

I wrote abit more about things I liked in Salem (there were quite alot (Humours for their Strong Theme + Multidimensional Qualities for their Haunting Moos)), but maybe not so relevant in a thread on what to bring over to Haven.
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Re: What did you hate in Salem you dont want in H&H ?

Postby MightySheep » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:04 pm

Flevalt wrote:I couldn't stand the way the game looked and felt.

This. Wasn't sure how to describe my feelings of Salem but fortunately this guy summed it up for me.

Also, to echo Winnfield's point, I disliked having to farm indian feathers to sell to npc in order buy skill potions, that was a really stupid system. Haven has a similar sort of thing with pearl farming but it's very different because pearls are an actual useful item and you sell them to players not NPC, so it doesn't feel quite as pointless and boring.
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Re: What did you hate in Salem you dont want in H&H ?

Postby GenghisKhan44 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:44 pm

loftar wrote:Just for a change, what things from Salem would you like to see in Haven? I imagine they exist if only in the purely technical department, like extended tooltips or town member lists.


Well, I went on the current iteration of Salem (didn't last long, but I did).

The tutorial is a good addition. If the "How do I?" section is any indicator, I think newbs could use a clue in HnH2. I also liked the ability to customise the look of my character. Hair colour and shape and beard is great. Being able to control the shape of the face, height, or at least width, would also be nice character customisation options to tack onto that.

I actually don't hate gluttony mode, or the four humours. I would be more accepting of the inspiration system if choosing to buy something would keep the excess IPs. It's faster than the study system, which I like, and I also like the music of the maracas and the impression that you actually get to enjoy the curios you make, rather than just staring at them, or carrying them around without appreciating them.

The tinder drill, frustrating as it was at times, was more realistic, and I did like that.

Now if only I could rotate the camera and buildings somewhat less awkwardly...
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Re: What did you hate in Salem you dont want in H&H ?

Postby DDDsDD999 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:52 am

loftar wrote:Just for a change, what things from Salem would you like to see in Haven? I imagine they exist if only in the purely technical department, like extended tooltips or town member lists.

Well...umm...I think there was a thing where you could wear a variety of end-game clothes? But not really?

I'll get back to you on this one. Maybe.
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Re: What did you hate in Salem you dont want in H&H ?

Postby Amanda44 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:25 pm

loftar wrote:Just for a change, what things from Salem would you like to see in Haven? I imagine they exist if only in the purely technical department, like extended tooltips or town member lists.


Mushroom and berry pies.

Oh, and choices in hairstyles. :)
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Re: What did you hate in Salem you dont want in H&H ?

Postby bmjclark » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:31 pm

loftar wrote:Just for a change, what things from Salem would you like to see in Haven? I imagine they exist if only in the purely technical department, like extended tooltips or town member lists.


I'd like to see a larger variety of animals like salem had. It'd be nice to have an animal that's scary to deal with later into the world asides for trolls. Also i kind of like how salem has ways to deal with criminals asides for just outright summoning them and killing them. Cutting peoples hands off (http://www.thesalemwiki.com/wiki/index. ... for_an_Eye) seems fun :P
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Re: What did you hate in Salem you dont want in H&H ?

Postby HasseKebab » Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:01 pm

pls loftar no pay2murder, trial by combat summon system
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Re: What did you hate in Salem you dont want in H&H ?

Postby epicless » Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:50 pm

loftar wrote:Just for a change, what things from Salem would you like to see in Haven? I imagine they exist if only in the purely technical department, like extended tooltips or town member lists.

I liked the improved tutorial, tooltips and general descriptions.

Would be great to play Haven 2.0 with little to no use of a wiki. I believe this would help newer players, as well.
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