Haven 2.0: "Hafen"

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Re: Haven 2.0: "Hafen"

Postby loftar » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:08 pm

Kaios wrote:You state you haven't seen any good ideas, people try to offer some ideas and then you go and shit all over them.

With the exception of Danno, when have I ever "shitten all over" an idea? I can't say that anything comes to mind.

Kaios wrote:In fact, I have heard plenty of ideas that I feel are 100x better than much of the stupid shit you currently have implemented or would make a huge array of improvements

Like what?
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Re: Haven 2.0: "Hafen"

Postby Kaios » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:22 pm

loftar wrote:With the exception of Danno, when have I ever "shitten all over" an idea? I can't say that anything comes to mind.


To have simply stated that you have not read any good ideas thus far is one way.

Like what?


I don't know man, I am not going to sift through posts by Potjeh or Jackard or browse through C&I just to find examples simply to spite you. You need to actually be at a point where you are more open to discussing the positives of ideas suggested and not only the negatives you see in them before it is worth anyone's time to attempt convincing you of anything.
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Re: Haven 2.0: "Hafen"

Postby Duderock » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:59 pm

Kaios wrote:Loftar you are the biggest piece of shit I've ever seen. You state you haven't seen any good ideas, people try to offer some ideas and then you go and shit all over them. Am I really surprised though? No, I suppose I am not.

I think a fairer way of putting it is to say he is unwilling to compromise. So any idea that requires compromise is classified as a bad idea even if it offers a superior social experience.
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Re: Haven 2.0: "Hafen"

Postby McJager » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:08 pm

Probably going to piss some people off when I say this but.. Isn't this game basically a side project for jorbtar? I mean, It's not like they really even have to continue the damn thing, I'm sure they could just scrap the idea or something to focus on something a little less demanding.
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Re: Haven 2.0: "Hafen"

Postby _sarah_ » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:13 pm

Well, i believe you dont know about their "main project" Salem.

McJager wrote:Probably going to piss some people off when I say this but.. Isn't this game basically a side project for jorbtar? I mean, It's not like they really even have to continue the damn thing, I'm sure they could just scrap the idea or something to focus on something a little less demanding.
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Re: Haven 2.0: "Hafen"

Postby McJager » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:15 pm

Haven't they already said they were putting salem on the back burner?
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Re: Haven 2.0: "Hafen"

Postby Kaios » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:33 pm

They already sold Salem to some other people who wanted to continue developing it. I won't pretend to know for certain their reasons for doing so but I can speculate that part of problem was and continues to be their unwillingness to listen to the players' suggestions.
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Re: Haven 2.0: "Hafen"

Postby Dzedajus » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:41 pm

Imagine that you have a greenhouse growing tomatoes. You grew them by yourself. Then the next morning some faggots overnight gathered around the greenhouse and saying that those tomatoes are not red enough and too small because you haven't watered them enough, telling those things like they own the tomatoes.
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Re: Haven 2.0: "Hafen"

Postby Kaios » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:44 pm

Dzedajus wrote:Imagine that you have a greenhouse growing tomatoes. You grew them by yourself. Then the next morning some faggots overnight gathered around the greenhouse and saying that those tomatoes are not red enough and too small because you haven't watered them enough, telling those things like they own the tomatoes.


I won't bother ending you this time, just be warned though next time you post something extra-retarded I may not be so kind
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Re: Haven 2.0: "Hafen"

Postby _sarah_ » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:45 pm

Definately. Also "interesting", b'coz we're not used to it, but the new developers are in contact with the players on the forum and listen to them.
Kaios wrote:They already sold Salem to some other people who wanted to continue developing it. I won't pretend to know for certain their reasons for doing so but I can speculate that part of problem was and continues to be their unwillingness to listen to the players' suggestions.
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